Temp Light

1. Crraigan L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 30

   #1 7th February 2012, 10:45

   my temperature light keeps coming on and steam coming out of the bonnet with the fan running really loud, this has only happened in the past few days, the cap for the water part of it had blew off so ive replaced that, no change, ive replaced the thermostat, no change. Can anybody help me with this problem?
2. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #2 7th February 2012, 10:53

   Try bleeding the coolant system,if theres no change then get your cooling system pressure tested.
3. Crraigan L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 30

   #3 7th February 2012, 11:00

   wouldnt this have been done when i put in new thermostat as all the water and coolant poured out? or is there something on the actual engine to bleed??
4. adamspencer Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 173 52 Saxo Desire 1.1

   #4 7th February 2012, 11:06

   fill with coolant and leave cap off and run the engine until warm then fill with more coolant as needed. Self bleeding coolant system as engine runs. If overheating is constant, it may be worth checking head gasket so milky gloop in oil or frothy coolant. Have you checked all over for any leaks?
5. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

   #5 7th February 2012, 11:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Crraigan wouldnt this have been done when i put in new thermostat as all the water and coolant poured out? or is there something on the actual engine to bleed??

   yeah you have air in the system bleed it up and should be okay there are 3 bleed points 1 near ecu looks like a dustcap another on the thermo housing and another one on the top right hand side of the rad
6. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

   #6 7th February 2012, 11:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by adamspencer fill with coolant and leave cap off and run the engine until warm then fill with more coolant as needed. Self bleeding coolant system as engine runs. If overheating is constant, it may be worth checking head gasket so milky gloop in oil or frothy coolant. Have you checked all over for any leaks?

   WTF! Don't do this!!!!
   
   It's not a self bleeding system at all, there's 3 bleed nipples along the coolant route that you need to open to release the air from the system. Failure to do so will cause air locks which lead to overheating which can prove terminal.
7. adamspencer Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 173 52 Saxo Desire 1.1

   #7 7th February 2012, 11:19

   is mine not standard then? theres an overflow reservior leading into the coolant system
8. Crraigan L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 30

   #8 7th February 2012, 11:19

   should engine be running with all caps off? when is it fully bled?
9. adamspencer Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 173 52 Saxo Desire 1.1

   #9 7th February 2012, 11:22

   ignore my comment then, it may appear my cooling system isnt standard, i dont know the history of the cooling system on my car, although it doesnt overheat so im not complaining
10. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #10 7th February 2012, 11:25

    It might well be different on the 1.1 models. I've only ever worked on Vtr's, VTs's and furio's which all had bleed nipples.
11. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #11 7th February 2012, 11:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adamspencer ignore my comment then, it may appear my cooling system isnt standard, i dont know the history of the cooling system on my car, although it doesnt overheat so im not complaining

    pics...
12. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #12 7th February 2012, 11:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by holdawayt It might well be different on the 1.1 models. I've only ever worked on Vtr's, VTs's and furio's which all had bleed nipples.

    no they all have 3 bleed points
13. Crraigan L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 30

    #13 7th February 2012, 11:27

    mine has bleed nipples and its 1.1 forte what do i do to bleed? ive taken off the caps, do i run the engine? what should i be seeing? please help as i need car foir work tonight
14. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #14 7th February 2012, 11:35

    Put coolant in car.
    Run the car with all of the bleed points closed.
    Open the first bleed nipple until running water comes out with no air bubbles.
    Shut the nipple off
    Open the next one and repeat.
    Repeat process on all 3 then top up the water.
    
    Job's a good'n. Oh and make sure your heaters are on full heat and blowers.
15. Crraigan L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 30

    #15 7th February 2012, 14:38

    Just so i get this right.
    
    I fill up with coolant
    i run the engine
    turn off engine and open first bleed nipple?
    then repeat?
16. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #16 7th February 2012, 14:40

    Keep the engine running throughout the whole exercise.
17. Crraigan L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 30

    #17 7th February 2012, 14:57

    should i just follow this?
    
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80569
18. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #18 7th February 2012, 15:04

    Yeah, or take it to a garage.
    
    I think you're making it seem more difficult than it is. It's literally a 5 minute job that shouldn't cause any problems.
19. Crraigan L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 30

    #19 7th February 2012, 15:05

    well ive been told by a garage not to have the engine running, and some things on here say to leave it running and some dont, thats where the confusion is coming from
20. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #20 7th February 2012, 15:08

    What?? You need the engine running to make the water pump do it's job.
    
    Without the engine running you won't have water flowing through the pipes therefore the air can't escape. Who told you that??
21. Crraigan L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 30

    #21 7th February 2012, 15:11

    A garage in grimsby
22. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #22 7th February 2012, 15:13

    Never go there again lol
    
    You don't need to have the engine running when you top the coolant up. But of course you need it running to bleed the system.
23. Crraigan L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 30

    #23 7th February 2012, 15:14

    okay thanks a lot im going to try this now
24. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #24 7th February 2012, 15:17

    Remember heaters on full blast!!
25. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #25 7th February 2012, 15:20

    this looks like its going to go really well or really badly...
26. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #26 7th February 2012, 15:21

    New thread:
    
    "I'VE GOT 3RD DEGREE BURNS ALL OVER MY BODY DUE TO HOLDAWAYT"
    
    I can see it now.
27. Crraigan L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 30

    #27 8th February 2012, 10:17

    Haha nearly did but it went alright I had an issue with the bleed point on the radiator as couldn't get it off but got everything flowing on the other, took for a drive and it was fine, will see properly when take it to work tomorrow
28. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #28 8th February 2012, 10:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Crraigan Haha nearly did but it went alright I had an issue with the bleed point on the radiator as couldn't get it off but got everything flowing on the other, took for a drive and it was fine, will see properly when take it to work tomorrow

    the bleed point on the radiator sometimes can be a pain. i get mole grips/pliers onto it and its much easier
29. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

    #29 8th February 2012, 10:41

    Good lad, glad it all worked out.
    
    I had a similar problem with the rad bleed point. You'll probably find the heaters and car water temp will warm up much quicker now as well.
30. Crraigan L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 30

    #30 8th February 2012, 14:51

    Yeah they do, ive been running it today with heaters on and stuff to see if the light came on so at the minute looking like it was a success
31. Crraigan L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 30

    #31 11th February 2012, 08:04

    Okay so this has happened again after days of it running fine its happened. I looked under bonnett and there is water all over the left side. When I pulled over you could heat water bubbling. Is this a garage job?
32. frenchlover23 Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 5

    #32 13th February 2012, 10:12

    lol ive got similar problem with temperature rising and random cold hot air spirts been bleeding the system but still lots of air hoping its the thermostat if not head gasket AND who ever said to bleed with the engine off needs shooting and not the rights to run a garage :@