weird noise still there even tho just had clutch changed??

1. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

   #1 7th February 2012, 15:22

   as above i have just had my clutch replaced because there was a weird noise (sounds like a seal lol).
   
   i asked on here and everyone said it sounds like a clutch release bearing. i had my clutch changed for a valeo one and just got the car back from the garage but the noise is still there.
   
   i took the car back to the garage and the guy said he thinks it might be the gear box.
   
   what do you think please?
2. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

   #2 7th February 2012, 15:23

   can you explain the sound? where its coming from? give us something to go on.
3. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

   #3 7th February 2012, 15:30

   it happened on the motorway befor xmas then went away and now its back.
   
   it happens when i am driving and lift of the accelerator. it sounds like its coming from the engine bay (at the drivers side the gf says) its goes away when i put the accelerator back on. only really happens over 25ish. the sound is hard to describe :/
   
   best i can describe really. i know its not much to go on sorry
4. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

   #4 7th February 2012, 15:35

   is the noise really loud? is it in a certain gear? , could you get someone to take a video while you drive?
5. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

   #5 7th February 2012, 16:10

   its different levels each time sometimes loud sometimes not. when i first heard it i thought it was something rubbing on the wheel. ill go for a drive now and try and record it
6. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

   #6 7th February 2012, 16:27

   dont record it while driving. you could kill someone else...
7. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

   #7 7th February 2012, 17:21

   got a video now ill upload it to youtube and post the link
8. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

   #8 7th February 2012, 17:35

   
   
   thats link to video
9. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

   #9 7th February 2012, 17:37

   starts going really bad at about 27 seconds
10. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #10 7th February 2012, 18:59

    anyone??
11. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

    #11 7th February 2012, 20:40

    sounds like the wheel is rubbing? is it just while driving? or is it also as you rev the engine?
12. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #12 7th February 2012, 20:49

    no just when driving. it squeaks when turning but dont know if that is another problem or if it links into the same thing?
13. user_48591 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Dundee Posts: 227 Silver Mk2 VeeTeeEhr

    #13 7th February 2012, 21:38

    driveshaft intermediate bearing bud i had the same noise (sounds like chewbacca!) only happens when you dip the clutch or let off accelerator.
    its on the drivers side driveshaft and is easier to replace the whole shaft tbh!
14. couttsyboy Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 Chippenham, Wiltshire Posts: 667 Silver Mk1 VTR 16v S1 Rallye 8v

    #14 7th February 2012, 22:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ian-bru driveshaft intermediate bearing bud i had the same noise (sounds like chewbacca!) only happens when you dip the clutch or let off accelerator. its on the drivers side driveshaft and is easier to replace the whole shaft tbh!

    hahaha sounds like chewbacca
15. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #15 8th February 2012, 04:27

    its the clutch release bearing making the noise...
16. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #16 8th February 2012, 11:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ian-bru driveshaft intermediate bearing bud i had the same noise (sounds like chewbacca!) only happens when you dip the clutch or let off accelerator. its on the drivers side driveshaft and is easier to replace the whole shaft tbh!

    thanks ill try that next
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kennym1987 its the clutch release bearing making the noise...

    just had my clutch done literally yesterday so cant be that.
17. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

    #17 8th February 2012, 13:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andyh just had my clutch done literally yesterday so cant be that.

    But did they just change the clutch? as the release bearing is separate...
18. rey Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 8205 :(s)rac

    #18 8th February 2012, 13:37

    Release bearing comes in the kit.
    
    My money is on the bearing in the shaft as said.
19. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #19 8th February 2012, 14:06

    got the 3 piece valeo kit so ill try drive shaft n ext see if that fixes it if not it back to the drawing board :/
20. Monkgti Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 New Ross Posts: 202 Saxo VTS/Xantia HDI

    #20 8th February 2012, 14:11

    when the noise comes into the car did you try clutching in to see if it goes out of it, that would rule out the box? it sounds a bit like air coming into the car aswell, i had a xantia that would make a noise somthing like that out of the heater blower when driving at certain speeds, plus the blower is on the drivers side of the saxo
21. Monkgti Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 New Ross Posts: 202 Saxo VTS/Xantia HDI

    #21 8th February 2012, 14:12

    or are any of the windscreen seals damaged or anything?
22. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #22 8th February 2012, 18:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Monkgti or are any of the windscreen seals damaged or anything?

    no dont think so. :s
23. LeLe Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 blackburn Posts: 7 saxo vtr 2003

    #23 8th February 2012, 18:45

    this has just started on my car today the same thing .. if i take it to the garage in the morning what is it doing it and how much to repair ? just so i dont get ripped off lol
24. Futurism Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Stoke on Trent Posts: 433 Saxo 1.1i sx

    #24 8th February 2012, 18:52

    Had a friends car make the exact same noise, was his drive shaft, we packed it with some grease for a short fix and it went away hasn't come back since,
    
    I'd Definatley reccomend changing the Driveshaft though not a massive job and gives you piece of mind
25. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #25 8th February 2012, 18:53

    im trying to find out same lol just had clutch kit fitted and wasnt that so dont go forking out £340 to have it fixed like i did
    
    if you find out in morning id love to know
26. LeLe Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 blackburn Posts: 7 saxo vtr 2003

    #26 8th February 2012, 18:56

    mine had a new clutch fitted in november last year so it aint clutch i watched the video on the first page and the noise from my car is exact the same as that one im presuming from comments it is the intermediate bearing on the right driveshaft ..which unfortunatly means absolutly nothing to me :/ think the part is about 70 from europarts no idea how much to fit though so if there is any mechanics on here give me a shout lol
27. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #27 8th February 2012, 18:57

    i have been quoted £180 to supply and fit both sides. is that reasonable or is it a hard job to do? also is it best to buy new ones at £70 a side or second hand ones for £60/70 for the pair?
28. LouisUK Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Middlesbrough Posts: 615

    #28 8th February 2012, 18:58

    I use to have the exact same noise, my dad greased something on the driveshaft and it went away. I still need a new driveshaft but atleast that fucking noise has gone for now.
29. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #29 8th February 2012, 19:00

    the noise gets so f**king annoying its untrue lol
30. LeLe Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 blackburn Posts: 7 saxo vtr 2003

    #30 8th February 2012, 19:01

    think i might do that ... as long as the wheels dont come off or steering goes while im driving :/ and probs be better getting them new ... the second hand ones may of had the same problem previously
31. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #31 8th February 2012, 19:04

    yeah was thinking that.
    
    anyone know were you pack the grease? ill do that and if it works then i know its that
32. LeLe Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 blackburn Posts: 7 saxo vtr 2003

    #32 8th February 2012, 19:07

    lol your asking the wrong person with me ... im blonde :/ haha ... but i could do with knowing where you put it too .. and where do you get grease from .. only grease i know of is the stuff that gets all over when ur frying stuff lol
33. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #33 8th February 2012, 19:13

    lol was aiming that at louisuk.
34. LeLe Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 blackburn Posts: 7 saxo vtr 2003

    #34 8th February 2012, 19:15

    lol sorry ... you did say anyone ....
35. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #35 8th February 2012, 19:18

    oh yeah my bad
36. enthrone Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 BS34 Posts: 1214 Yellow 16v

    #36 8th February 2012, 19:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andyh i have been quoted £180 to supply and fit both sides. is that reasonable or is it a hard job to do? also is it best to buy new ones at £70 a side or second hand ones for £60/70 for the pair?

    Thats a decent price for supply and fitting, cost me £60 or £70 a side from local motorfactors and that was the cheapest i could find for decent ones.
    
    changing them was a real ball ache for simon and his mate, i just sat their and watched.
    
    Wouldnt bother with second hand driveshafts, youll just end up buying a set again later, driveshafts i always do both sides at same time, even if just ones fooked.
37. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #37 8th February 2012, 20:24

    yeah was thinking getting new ones, but going to grease up cv joints first see if it stops or helps and then ill know if its cv joints.
38. Liamjrhodes Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Pontefract Posts: 1095 Nissan 200sx s14a Citroen Saxo VTS Austin Mini C

    #38 8th February 2012, 20:53

    Mines making the same noise, been told its drive shaft, gearbox bearings, clutch bearing or something rubbing so hoping to find out exactly before i start replacing things and spend all my money
39. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #39 8th February 2012, 22:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Liamjrhodes Mines making the same noise, been told its drive shaft, gearbox bearings, clutch bearing or something rubbing so hoping to find out exactly before i start replacing things and spend all my money

    
    i have been told all that aswell so had clutch changed and wasnt that
    
    if its gearbox bearings is that a replaceable or is it a new/second hand gearbox?
40. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #40 8th February 2012, 22:41

    what make of clutch / thrust bearing did you have fitted?
41. user_48591 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Dundee Posts: 227 Silver Mk2 VeeTeeEhr

    #41 8th February 2012, 22:47

    Jack up Drivers side (quite high)
    Remove wheel
    Remove Driveshaft bolt
    Remove bottom ball joint bolt
    Remove Intermediate bearing bolts - 2x 11mm
    Undo Drop link
    Undo Track rod end
    Pull shaft out - if your jacked up high enough then no gearbox oil should come out.
42. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #42 8th February 2012, 23:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bedford126 what make of clutch / thrust bearing did you have fitted?

    valeo clutch kit
43. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #43 8th February 2012, 23:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ian-bru Jack up Drivers side (quite high) Remove wheel Remove Driveshaft bolt Remove bottom ball joint bolt Remove Intermediate bearing bolts - 2x 11mm Undo Drop link Undo Track rod end Pull shaft out - if your jacked up high enough then no gearbox oil should come out.

    is that to change it or just fill with grease to check it that that wrong with it?
44. Liamjrhodes Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Pontefract Posts: 1095 Nissan 200sx s14a Citroen Saxo VTS Austin Mini C

    #44 8th February 2012, 23:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andyh i have been told all that aswell so had clutch changed and wasnt that if its gearbox bearings is that a replaceable or is it a new/second hand gearbox?

    Really reluctant to spend any money unless i know it will sort it. And gearbox bearings means need new gearbox unless fancy stripping it down and refurbing it
45. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

    #45 8th February 2012, 23:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Liamjrhodes Really reluctant to spend any money unless i know it will sort it. And gearbox bearings means need new gearbox unless fancy stripping it down and refurbing it

    I'll help ya if ya want pal, do it at my work
46. user_48591 Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2010 Dundee Posts: 227 Silver Mk2 VeeTeeEhr

    #46 9th February 2012, 08:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andyh is that to change it or just fill with grease to check it that that wrong with it?

    to change it, just reverse for refitting new one. mind and copper grease a'hin up!
47. dalef1992 Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 28

    #47 9th February 2012, 09:05

    does it do it when only accelerating ? and also when only turning iv just had a stupid knocking noise that i cant get rid of i need help on that iv replaced both shafts and steering rack.. iv been told its my diff btw have you checked its not your brake pads or discs rubbing
48. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #48 9th February 2012, 13:32

    when it started was just when accelerating but now its on and off whether im braking dipping clutch or drifting ect. i have had my brakes and discs changed couple weeks ago. ill wait till it stops raining and whack a load of grease in it.
    
    is it just copper grease i need??
49. user_54142 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 blackpool Posts: 232 black saxo vtr 2001

    #49 14th February 2012, 17:05

    it was the driveshafts if anyone wanted to know lol