My Saxo sounds like an Impreza!

1. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

   #1 24th February 2012, 12:39

   Right, I've not got any lambda sensors in, never driven over a mile until today. Started bogging down, a lot, bunny hopped down the road for a bit. EML light came on and I was struggling to get the thing over 30mph.
   
   Came to a steep hill, 2nd gear and it was really struggling. Then all of a sudden, EML light started flashing and all the power came back, but it now sounds like a boxer engine and struggles to pick up under 1.5k rpm.
   
   I think it's over fuelled to high heaven and killed something. EML light is now constantly flashing.
   
   3 plug Vts.
   
   Gonna try and get my lambda sensors out the old manifold and cat and refit them, but I don't think it will help with the engine...
   
   Any Help?
2. holdawayt Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2010 Stourbridge Posts: 7338 Nissan 200sx S14a

   #2 24th February 2012, 12:41

   That would be a missfire. Unfortunately I know nothing of these modern engines so can't really help. But it'll probably be injector, coilpack related.
3. scotthep Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Pontefract Posts: 1472

   #3 24th February 2012, 13:01

   maybe Coilpack mine did this...
4. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

   #4 24th February 2012, 13:13

   sounds like lambda sensor related, does your car cut out sometimes when you put the clutch down?
5. rey Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 8205 :(s)rac

   #5 24th February 2012, 13:16

   Is it running on three?
6. Goose Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Newcastle Posts: 526 BMW E46 Touring Breaking VTS

   #6 24th February 2012, 13:20

   Id say a fucked coil!
7. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

   #7 24th February 2012, 13:35

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by holdawayt That would be a missfire. Unfortunately I know nothing of these modern engines so can't really help. But it'll probably be injector, coilpack related.

   I wonder if I've drown a spark plug.
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by scotthep maybe Coilpack mine did this...

   Not got a spare I can try... But again it could just be a plug.
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by rey Is it running on three?

   How do I tell?
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Goose Id say a fucked coil!

   As above.
   
   
   Are VTR spark plugs the same as Vts ones? I've got a full set of new plugs for a VTR!
8. user_46658 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2010 Little Mill, South Wales Posts: 7547 Mondeo ST TDCI Saxo VTS

   #8 24th February 2012, 13:38

   I had exactly this problem, ill put money on it being the coil pack, was running on three and then all of a sudden the power would kick back in and go again at random intervals.

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9. rey Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 8205 :(s)rac

   #9 24th February 2012, 13:47

   Unsure on if the plug's are the same. I reckon they will be.
   
   And if it's running on three, you can feel it, they run lumpy, and just don't run right - which by the sounds of things is what yours is doing.

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10. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

    #10 24th February 2012, 13:54

    Surely it's a good thing if it sounds like an impreza?
11. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

    #11 24th February 2012, 13:54

    Gonna change the plugs now and see if anything changes. If not I'm gomna change to a dizzy cap and leads.
    
    Do GMC still do the kit?
12. user_45315 Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2010 mansfield Posts: 774 vt replica (sold) furio sold Banana vtr!

    #12 24th February 2012, 14:39

    sounds like coil pack mate, i have 2 for sale if you need one
13. BertieG Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 exeter, devon Posts: 1224 Clio 172

    #13 24th February 2012, 14:46

    if its running on 3 one branch of the manifold will be cold. have fun finding it

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14. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

    #14 24th February 2012, 15:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BertieG if its running on 3 one branch of the manifold will be cold. have fun finding it

    Hahahaha. I can just imagine Josh trying this
15. BertieG Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 exeter, devon Posts: 1224 Clio 172

    #15 24th February 2012, 16:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Viper Hahahaha. I can just imagine Josh trying this

    i could have said drop some water on them and see which doesnt boil the water, but grabbing a handful of steaming exhaust is far more fun
16. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #16 24th February 2012, 16:24

    Is it an 8v? If so check your rocker cover gasket - mine was leaking and dumping oil down the plug hole and obviously this caused it to run on three
17. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

    #17 24th February 2012, 16:34

    Right, well I've managed to get my pre-cat lambda back in, not bothered with the post-cat lambda as I couldnt be arsed to go under the car. And I've changed all 4 spark plugs. The old ones were blacker than Phillips Idowu, a bit wet and stunk of petrol.
    
    The EML light has stopped flashing, but not gone off, the car idles steady now, instead of making the engine try jump out of the bay, and it runs alright.
    But it still sounds like a boxer engine and doesn't really pull like it should under 4k rpm...
    
    [Fast and Furious Voice] I hope I have fried a piston ring.[/Fast and Furious Voice]