Non impact sockets on an impact gun?

1. LScottBell Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 822 Citroen Saxo Vtr 2001

   #1 4th March 2012, 00:18

   Just wondered if its too risky ?
   
   Got a hub nut to crack and its 32mm got everything up to 30mm! But got a high quality socket set with the 32mm in it. I know they say the chrome ones are more *brittle* but have read mixed reviews on it.
   
   Is it worth trying or should i just get one. Its 10 quid alone for the one 32mm socket!
2. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #2 4th March 2012, 00:19

   upto really but......
   
   Warning
   
   Although non-impact sockets might fit onto air/impact ratchets, they are dangerous to use that way. Non-impact sockets are fabricated from brittle metals that could fracture or shatter, with the pieces becoming projectiles, under the torque created by air ratchets
3. LScottBell Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 822 Citroen Saxo Vtr 2001

   #3 4th March 2012, 00:22

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Baz upto really but...... Warning Although non-impact sockets might fit onto air/impact ratchets, they are dangerous to use that way. Non-impact sockets are fabricated from brittle metals that could fracture or shatter, with the pieces becoming projectiles, under the torque created by air ratchets

   Very true mate.
   
   Suppose my eyes are worth 10 quid instead of socket parts stuck in them lol
4. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #4 4th March 2012, 00:26

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by LScottBell Very true mate. Suppose my eyes are worth 10 quid instead of socket parts stuck in them lol

   indeed! Can't say I've every tried it but if thats the risk...i'd defo buy one, rather have eyes than £10 lol
5. monka Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 1368

   #5 4th March 2012, 00:32

   been using a 17, 19 and 21mm non impact on an air gun for 7 years now no problem.
   
   i have buggered up a few sockets on air guns though, never seen one shatter, normally just round out either end, or split the socket down one edge
6. user_35966 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 kelso Posts: 762 106 gti

   #6 4th March 2012, 00:33

   I use non impact sockets with air guns every day and never had any bother lol you have to put a hell of a lot of torque through them to break them
7. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

   #7 4th March 2012, 01:04

   can you not just use a breaker bar with your normal socket to save risking it?
8. LScottBell Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 822 Citroen Saxo Vtr 2001

   #8 4th March 2012, 01:38

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ben_SaxoForte can you not just use a breaker bar with your normal socket to save risking it?

   Yes i could but i done one about a year past ago using a breaker bar and it was a bastard to shift. Took ages for the hub nut to finally go.
   
   This impact gun should crack it easier (Hopefully)
9. manta Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2009 Jonathan Tonk's yard. Posts: 4232 '85 Opel Manta '88 Manta GT/E '87 Rayleigh Roadi

   #9 4th March 2012, 02:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by vts-dave I use non impact sockets with air guns every day and never had any bother lol you have to put a hell of a lot of torque through them to break them

   +1 nevr had any probs.
   
   Wrap some gaffa tape round it if you're worried.
10. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #10 4th March 2012, 02:59

    This is all ive ever managed to do
    Impact socket being used by hand though (24" bar)
    
    
    
    When it comes to hubnuts i rarely use an impact gun but if i do i use a normal soket and not had any issues with them
11. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

    #11 4th March 2012, 09:13

    I've done it without problem.
12. MrJames L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 32

    #12 4th March 2012, 09:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB This is all ive ever managed to do Impact socket being used by hand though (24" bar) When it comes to hubnuts i rarely use an impact gun but if i do i use a normal soket and not had any issues with them

    You sure that's an impact socket? Looks like a normal chromed socket
13. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #13 4th March 2012, 10:24

    looks like one of those spangly coloured wheel bolt sockets that crack to me, had a set of them and they were gash
14. MrJames L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 32

    #14 4th March 2012, 10:30

    It certainly doesn't look black that's for sure
15. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

    #15 4th March 2012, 12:03

    Not fat enough for a impact.
    
    Id say its a sealey socket, they do sets in random colours so sizes are easily identified.
16. huricane Established Member Joined: Feb 2010 cardiff Posts: 1414 saxo Vtr

    #16 5th March 2012, 18:04

    Just use breakers bar with scaffold pole on it always works for me
17. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #17 5th March 2012, 22:27

    I used a non-impact socket in the Halfords Advanced toolset with a windy gun and it was fine.
18. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #18 5th March 2012, 22:31

    ive had splinters in my face from non impact sockets after using them on guns.
    so yeah it can happen.
    
    although, ive used many before and never had any issues.
    do it, and wear goggles...or get a socket.
19. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #19 5th March 2012, 22:33

    Theres a saying use the correct tool for the job,get an impact socket they`re designed for the extra force.