Performance in this heat!

1. DarylVTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2006 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6802

   #1 27th July 2006, 18:01

   Alright lads, when i put my foot down at the moment to accelerate , it hesitates alot then all of a sudden when it reaches about 5,000 RPM it sort of gives it a huge kick of power, seems to be this hot weather. Would it be because i have an piper-x open air induction kit? Im thinking this might be the cause of the hesitation?
2. Andy_S Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 Derby Posts: 1548 Saxo VTS

   #2 27th July 2006, 18:08

   Thats probably the main reason why your loosin performance because not only is your induction kit taking in all the warm air from your engine bay but also from the heat outside.
3. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

   #3 27th July 2006, 18:13

   bin the piperx that's your problem. there was one on mine when i bought it, took me a while to get rid but when i replaced it with the standard airbox the difference was immediately noticeable.
4. DarylVTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2006 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6802

   #4 27th July 2006, 18:14

   really? i might go and test it to see if thats true or not
5. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #5 27th July 2006, 18:15

   hot air = less dense air = less power.
   
   and open induction is going to screw it in this weather
6. Andy_S Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 Derby Posts: 1548 Saxo VTS

   #6 27th July 2006, 18:16

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by seanvtr81 bin the piperx that's your problem. there was one on mine when i bought it, took me a while to get rid but when i replaced it with the standard airbox the difference was immediately noticeable.

   
   Agreed, mine came with 1 on aswell, took it straight off.
7. DarylVTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2006 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6802

   #7 27th July 2006, 18:16

   il put orignial filter back on and take it for a spin i think and let you know how she does, i might just miss the sound though
   
   are they that bad?
8. Andy_S Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 Derby Posts: 1548 Saxo VTS

   #8 27th July 2006, 18:18

   Open filters yes, a nice filter to think about is the enclosed green cotton, and you still get a bit of a sporty sound when you put your foot down.
9. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #9 27th July 2006, 18:19

   sound like your going faster or actually go faster???
   
   I know which one i would choose
   
10. Andy_S Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 Derby Posts: 1548 Saxo VTS

    #10 27th July 2006, 18:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer sound like your going faster or actually go faster???

    was this meant for me?
11. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #11 27th July 2006, 18:27

    as ad says. Daryl put a panel filter in the standard airbox, plus a piece of samco from the grill to the airbox in place of the standard cold air feed. voila, enclosed induction kit (what the standard airbox is anyway....). still beats me why people pay over 150 for bmc etc....
12. Andy_S Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 Derby Posts: 1548 Saxo VTS

    #12 27th July 2006, 18:35

    Agreed but people also like to style out there engine bay, and what better way to do it but buy a nice lookin air filter. i got my green filter on the cheap anyway, but if i didnt then id probs go for a panel filter.
13. Furio-Hoe Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2006 Cambridge Posts: 401 saxo furio mk2 1.4i 8V

    #13 27th July 2006, 18:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by seanvtr81 plus a piece of samco from the grill to the airbox in place of the standard cold air feed.

    
    man you have too much cash! lol samco = silly price
14. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #14 27th July 2006, 18:52

    still way cheaper than a bmc
15. DarylVTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2006 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6802

    #15 27th July 2006, 18:53

    lol man i cant believe how much better it is with standard filter on, i swore when i first fitted the piper-x it felt better, but its definatly not. Will be selling that then im really suprised by the lvel of difference
16. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #16 27th July 2006, 18:55

    haha good luck selling it after the slating it's just had
17. DarylVTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2006 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6802

    #17 27th July 2006, 18:57

    lol yer i cant believe its made that much difference, feels like i totally different car, alot more responsive!
18. Andy_S Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 Derby Posts: 1548 Saxo VTS

    #18 27th July 2006, 19:00

    Lesson of the day, never buy an open airfilter.
19. DarylVTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2006 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6802

    #19 27th July 2006, 19:18

    untill now i have used them happily but now i have seen what ive been missing im not buying another in a hurry LOL
20. stu666 L-plater Joined: Jul 2006 In a house Posts: 32 Ibiza 100bhp

    #20 27th July 2006, 22:40

    I had the same problem with my 57i kit, it was really heating up @ the back of the engine bay. I overcame this problem by making a pipe that re-located the open filter to just behind the n/s headlight allong with a cold air feed. The result was NOTICEABLE AND LOOKS MINT! If any1 wants a pic let me know.
21. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #21 28th July 2006, 00:52

    get a green enclosed you big fag
    
    at least it wasnt anything terminal
22. beardy Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2006 isle of wight Posts: 761 Impreza STI - Saxo GTI

    #22 28th July 2006, 20:06

    price on a green enclosed? and are they the same as BMC? i know BMC is tested and increases BHP between 5-10
    
    
    i have a crapy open filter that was on car when bought, aint got the orig either.
23. ets2k9 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Hednesford, West Mids Posts: 6230 Seat Leon Cupra R

    #23 28th July 2006, 20:18

    My car is running like crap aswell I have a Ram cooler fitted which is struggling to get any any cold air in, its useless I'm going to get Piper X viper.