How To Guide - Remove Headlining/Roof lining and Sunroof

  1. #1
    Noticed this was done a while ago but with few bits missing so while I was doing mine today I thought I'd get some pics for everyone.

    Tools you'll need:
    Torx Bits - T10, T20, T30 I think haha (Just get all from Size T10-T30 to be safe)
    Ratchet
    Extension
    7mm Socket
    Flat head screw driver (thin one)

    First of all start with removing the bolt for the sunroof winder.



    Then remove the winder from the spline like so which reveales 2 more bolts



    Once those have been removed I would remove the Interior light prizing it out with the flat head and disconnecting it.



    Next you will need to use the thin flat head to prize out where the alarm sensor is if you have one or just the blanked plug like so.



    This will then reveal another bolt to undo.



    You can then remove that whole section, but don't just yank at it like a gorrila, push in the 2 bronze coloured clips as shown below.



    Next is to remove both the screws holding in each sun visor.



    There is then another tiny Torx (T10) in the clip that holds the sunvisor to the roof, once thats been removed use the flat head to prize out the clip. (Do this on both sides)



    Next pop out the blanking plug on the drivers side, easiest way is to use two flat head screwdrivers either side and pull!



    Then you'll need to remove the 3 grab handles, which you will need to flip the cap open to get at the T30.



    Then remove the coat hanger hooks.



    Next start to remove all the rubber seals around the doors and windows and boot then start to remove the A and B pillar which will leave you with this (As I don't have standard belts I didn't have to undo the seat belt which IIRC is a 17mm bolt.




    Once this has been done, put the sunroof winder back onto the spline to open the back end of the sunroof and undo the 2 7mm Bolts located at the back then wind the sunroof all the way to the back to get access to the other 7mm bolts.



    Then remove the 2 T10 that are at the front with an ovelish shaped washer.



    Pull the sunroof winder back off and pull the headlining towards the front of the car so it comes out from behind the C Pillar cover like so.



    Job Done!

    As I won't be taking the actual sunroof out just yet I put the sunvisors and sunroof winder back in so I don't get blinded lol (Though from the pics you can see the few bolts that hold it in place, or so it seems)




    When I come to take the whole sunroof out I'll add it to the bottom of this Guide. Hope this helps everyone.

    You can also see where the sunroof drain pipe comes from once the lining is removed but I personally wouldn't pull it off to shove water down it to test if its blocked. Will get pics from outside when the sunroof is out. But here is a pic of the rubber drain from inside.



    Don't think I've missed anything out

    When removing the actual glass and surround its self as a whole, you just need to undo the bolts that you can see and 2 which are under the foam (shown in the pic below) and prize it out. It will be stuck down a little with some glue. I just used a screwdriver which I taped up so it didn't scratch the paintwork.

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  2. #2
    Useful guide, i might try this myself at the weekend
  3. #3
    Useful guide mate, will be doing this at weekend to check if sunroofs leaking. Top job on the clarity :Y:
  4. #4
    Added to the FAQ (http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58505).

    Cheers!
  5. #5
    Nice one mate nice to see some one doing it correctly with the bolts inside of the sunroof!
  6. #6
    Massive bump......

    After a night of rain I've noticed the sunroof leaking so I've just pulled out all the roof lining to find the problem....nice problem found aswell!
    Under the sunroof, in the metal area where the drain pipes connect, one corner has rusted quite bad, just given it a tap and pushed the metal out!
    Just wondering, does anyone know if that metal area can be unbolted and replaced?
  7. #7
    Not to my knowledge,the pro way would be to get a new section welded in.or the cheaper way is to fibreglass the hole.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stevo67 View Post
    Not to my knowledge,the pro way would be to get a new section welded in.or the cheaper way is to fibreglass the hole.
    My partner also said to fibreglass it. I don't think welding the area would be done easily as it's right in the corner so alot of cutting would be involved but the idea of replacing the whole part looked easy in my mind but don't want to dive in cutting out sealant to find it can't be done...halfrauds for fibreglass and rust treatment on payday then
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    I just fiberglassed mine but ive heard of people having them welded up.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jokerer View Post
    I just fiberglassed mine but ive heard of people having them welded up.
    Any tips with doing fibreglass, such as areas known to hold water so I can target them to be safe?

    I keep getting stopped by the rain but the sunroof is out, any rust has been treated over the last few days put some extra rust treatment paint over the top of the treated rust today and covered the car so it can dry between the rain. Next stage will be fibreglass the hole then seal everything back in place hopefully over the weekend depending on the weather.
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    On most saxos ive seen and including mine, its the front part of the sunroof channels, where the drain tube is.

    You can easily get it done in a few hours, the rust treatments and fibreglass didn't take that long to cure and set from memory.
    1.Remove all the trim, roof lining and sunroof
    2. Get a drill with a steel wire brush and go to town on any rust
    3. Get some rust convertor and give the area a treatment (Kurust, jenolite, phosphoric acid or something on it)
    4. Once the treatment has been finished, get your fibreglass resin and give the area a coat, then place some fibreglass matting down and give it a good dabble to get the resin to penetrate properly. (You can cut the matt into small chunks to fit)

    I gave it one or two layers and then left it, you can always try to bulk up the area with more fibreglass as a little as it does collect water in the low point but I didn't bother.

    Tips: Make sure you cover your seats, dashboard etc before you start. Possibly get a mate to help hand you pieces of matting or hold things as it is really messy work. Don't mix up too much resin at one time. Make sure you cover all the bare metal with resin or it will rust when exposed to water.
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jokerer View Post
    On most saxos ive seen and including mine, its the front part of the sunroof channels, where the drain tube is.

    You can easily get it done in a few hours, the rust treatments and fibreglass didn't take that long to cure and set from memory.
    1.Remove all the trim, roof lining and sunroof
    2. Get a drill with a steel wire brush and go to town on any rust
    3. Get some rust convertor and give the area a treatment (Kurust, jenolite, phosphoric acid or something on it)
    4. Once the treatment has been finished, get your fibreglass resin and give the area a coat, then place some fibreglass matting down and give it a good dabble to get the resin to penetrate properly. (You can cut the matt into small chunks to fit)

    I gave it one or two layers and then left it, you can always try to bulk up the area with more fibreglass as a little as it does collect water in the low point but I didn't bother.

    Tips: Make sure you cover your seats, dashboard etc before you start. Possibly get a mate to help hand you pieces of matting or hold things as it is really messy work. Don't mix up too much resin at one time. Make sure you cover all the bare metal with resin or it will rust when exposed to water.
    Made sure to target the drain pipe areas, there is now no way water can hold on that area that I can see. Managed to get the fibreglass done yesterday before the rain came down again so got the car covered to let it all set which didn't take long. Definitely agree about how messy it is though but done on my own and did quite well at keeping the interior clean. Just waiting for the next dry patch now so I can check and sand off the fibreglass, maybe give it a coat of paint even though it won't be seen then I can think about getting the sunroof sealed back into place and reseal the rubber in place aswell.
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    Lastly, what's the best stuff to use to seal the frame back to the roof. I know I've got plenty of the exterior hard as nails stuff but I know that tends to be a bit shit at times.
  14. #14
    sikaflex - but don't go mad with it.
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  15. #15
    I don't actually think you really need anything but I used a thin bead of mastic on mine
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  16. #16
    Gone with sikaflex after a friend recommended it aswell, not got round to doing it yet though, now a job for tomorrow.