locking wheel nut problem. need help

1. Neon-cucumber Newbie Joined: Mar 2012 Rotherham Posts: 21 Saxo furio 1.4

   #1 18th March 2012, 17:35

   just got some alloys for my new car and found out that it has got locking wheel nuts vut no key they are round with 4 holes in it :/ can someone help me i need a tool to get them out or the key.
2. tony5haw1988 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 tyne and wear Posts: 498 saxo vts ph2

   #2 18th March 2012, 17:38

   i had this problem mate and it was horrible!!! i ended up buying a decent drill bit and drilling a hole then hamering an allen key bit in the hole and cracking it out with a power bar
3. Neon-cucumber Newbie Joined: Mar 2012 Rotherham Posts: 21 Saxo furio 1.4

   #3 18th March 2012, 17:48

   haha its doing my head in :/ i might get stilsons on haha
4. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

   #4 18th March 2012, 18:02

   id just save the hassel and take it to the garage. they do this shit all the time
5. user_52446 Established Member Joined: May 2011 Norwich Posts: 1430 Forteee & Furiooooo

   #5 18th March 2012, 23:37

   I had this problem
   Took it to my brothers mechanic friend who owns a garage,
   Think they said they ended up putting something pointy in one of the holes in the nut, slanting it and hammering the metal pointy thing. Cant think what it was lol...if this makes ANY sense ahah
6. danny-vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr

   #6 19th March 2012, 03:29

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by iFurio I had this problem Took it to my brothers mechanic friend who owns a garage, Think they said they ended up putting something pointy in one of the holes in the nut, slanting it and hammering the metal pointy thing. Cant think what it was lol...if this makes ANY sense ahah

   the metal pointy thing could be a 'punch'
7. user_52446 Established Member Joined: May 2011 Norwich Posts: 1430 Forteee & Furiooooo

   #7 19th March 2012, 10:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by danny-vts the metal pointy thing could be a 'punch'

   That's the one! cheers boss
8. tomoaks Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Croydon "In`it" Posts: 163 Got "y" reg saxo VTR, is a nice looking motor.

   #8 19th March 2012, 10:56

   needle nosed pliars in the holes and turn? had same thing with my old vectra and i jabbed some needled nosed pliars in the holes and with brute strength turned the nuts
9. saxosrus-uk Newbie Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 29

   #9 19th March 2012, 11:17

   you could take it to a tyre place and they will remove them or buy yourself a locking wheel nut removal socket. it has threads in so as you do it up onto the locker it undoes it as has a reverse thread.
10. Bean Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 derby Posts: 1276 Black 03 vtr, Yamaha R1 @185 bhp

    #10 19th March 2012, 13:36

    i had this on mine, fucked around getting the front two off, got that mad doing it so took it to a garage to get the rear ones off they charged me 7.50 a corner
11. link_heroz Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Loughborough Posts: 760 Black MK2 Saxo VTR 02

    #11 19th March 2012, 16:30

    My locking nuts on mine look exactly the same. I can't get mine off ether so when you get them off let me know how to (:
12. DanTvts Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Torbay Posts: 1285 Mauritius Vts, 206 Gti 180

    #12 19th March 2012, 17:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomoaks needle nosed pliars in the holes and turn? had same thing with my old vectra and i jabbed some needled nosed pliars in the holes and with brute strength turned the nuts

    You undid wheel nuts with pliers? Hench! OP easier to just take it to the garage for that sort of stuff, as everyone's said they don't charge much either, and you'll probably make a mess of it at home, not an easy thing to do
13. dan_dan_the_saxo_man Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 England Posts: 574 1998 saxo 1.1 sx 2001 saxo vtr

    #13 19th March 2012, 18:53

    my dad just drilled through mine for me
14. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #14 19th March 2012, 19:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomoaks needle nosed pliars in the holes and turn? had same thing with my old vectra and i jabbed some needled nosed pliars in the holes and with brute strength turned the nuts

    they must have been some dangerously loose wheel bolts if you could undo them with pliers lol
    that or you have some hulk like hands lol
15. tom_richo L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Ripley, Derbyshire Posts: 49 1.4 Furio Wicked red + Black citroen c2 gt

    #15 19th March 2012, 21:56

    drill and thread with a left handed tap? put a bolt in and see if it comes loose once tightened.
16. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #16 19th March 2012, 21:59

    plenty of methods to get them off.
    locking nut removal kit was one of the best things i was to buy!...made its money back 100 x
    
    
17. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #17 19th March 2012, 22:28

    I removed my last ones using a multi-hex deep socket, 13 or 14mm iirc , hit the socket over the center part of the locking nut that sticks out, you would be suprised how well the sockets grip the locking nut even though its round in the middle
18. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #18 19th March 2012, 22:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LSOfreak they must have been some dangerously loose wheel bolts if you could undo them with pliers lol that or you have some hulk like hands lol

    normally locking wheel nuts arent tightened to the same torque as the normal wheel bolts, because they have daft patterns on the the locking wheel nut key's that locate into the grooves on the bolt they cant handle the torque and snap or shear the key , but most are over tightened as i find at work
19. DanTvts Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Torbay Posts: 1285 Mauritius Vts, 206 Gti 180

    #19 19th March 2012, 23:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnakeVTR normally locking wheel nuts arent tightened to the same torque as the normal wheel bolts, because they have daft patterns on the the locking wheel nut key's that locate into the grooves on the bolt they cant handle the torque and snap or shear the key , but most are over tightened as i find at work

    That is as may be, put if you can undo your wheel nuts with pliers....they're not tight enough end of. And what would be the point of a locking wheel nut which has been tightened up to the point that a pair of pliers could undo it?
20. Simon0014 Established Member Joined: Aug 2010 Chippenham/Bristol Posts: 1892 1962 Austin Mini, BMW 330ci

    #20 19th March 2012, 23:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tontsy plenty of methods to get them off. locking nut removal kit was one of the best things i was to buy!...made its money back 100 x

    From stealing poor unsuspecting victims alloys?
    
    
    
    Also try hammering a socket over them then twist off been told thats how some chavvy kid from my hometown does it....