What is going on with my car!

1. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

   #1 21st March 2012, 21:58

   STILL has a lumpy idle.. all sensors checked nothing came back as anything that would cause a problem.. replaced plugs and changed the coil pack 3 times with 3 different ones, headgasket was done 2000miles ago, Compression tested Cylinder one was 200, Cylinder two was 200, Cylinder three was 200 and Cylinder four was 190, Had a leak down test a tiny bit got past the rings but nothing major, have been told the engine breaths slightly heavier than normal, didnt pass an emissions test, put some fuel injector cleaner through the system seems to of helped abit, changed the fuel filter today tipped the old one into a bucket black shite and rocks came out of it haha.. whats going on? loosing my mind Cheers!
2. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

   #2 21st March 2012, 22:19

   Oh, and doesnt lose any oil or coolant! and is great on fuel?
3. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

   #3 21st March 2012, 22:54

   Bump, ive spent hours on thissss... Hasn't anyone had anything similar happen?
4. DeanAngell1234 Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Posts: 1424 Suzuki Swift SZ3 2003 Posi Blue VTS

   #4 21st March 2012, 23:05

   ECU maybe? When my sisters ECU went on hers it had simular symptoms
5. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

   #5 21st March 2012, 23:10

   Hmm, it could be.. Anything to do with wiring is a pig its weird because half the time its not there and then other times it is.. it doesnt do it when it is cold either
6. DeanAngell1234 Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Posts: 1424 Suzuki Swift SZ3 2003 Posi Blue VTS

   #6 21st March 2012, 23:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by lhessey Hmm, it could be.. Anything to do with wiring is a pig its weird because half the time its not there and then other times it is.. it doesnt do it when it is cold either

   Idle Control Valve maybe?
7. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

   #7 21st March 2012, 23:17

   Taken off, cleaned everything works freely and tested on diagnostic scanner thats fine..
8. DeanAngell1234 Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Posts: 1424 Suzuki Swift SZ3 2003 Posi Blue VTS

   #8 21st March 2012, 23:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by lhessey Taken off, cleaned everything works freely and tested on diagnostic scanner thats fine..

   Nothing comes up on the diagnostic?
9. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

   #9 21st March 2012, 23:23

   Nothing at all
10. andy1weir Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 162

    #10 21st March 2012, 23:23

    ive got exactly the same problem, about to try another coil pack at the weekend, this will be the 3rd one, cleaned throttle body, new icv new ht leads , new air filter, new fuel filter etc etc
    
    kinda pissin me off now tbh
11. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

    #11 21st March 2012, 23:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andy1weir ive got exactly the same problem, about to try another coil pack at the weekend, this will be the 3rd one, cleaned throttle body, new icv new ht leads , new air filter, new fuel filter etc etc kinda pissin me off now tbh

    What, running lumpy on idle? sort of popping from exhaust?, it stops as soon as its revved too as little as 1100rpm haha, pisses me off that its only on idle and is extremely hard too find the problem!
12. DeanAngell1234 Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Posts: 1424 Suzuki Swift SZ3 2003 Posi Blue VTS

    #12 21st March 2012, 23:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lhessey Nothing at all

    That is so weird, not really much left to check/change as it sounds like you've changed major components :/
13. andy1weir Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 162

    #13 21st March 2012, 23:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lhessey What, running lumpy on idle? sort of popping from exhaust?, it stops as soon as its revved too as little as 1100rpm haha, pisses me off that its only on idle and is extremely hard too find the problem!

    
    yep lumpy idle, popping occassionaly, ive had it on a diagnostic scanner too nothing comes up, if you fix it let me know lol
14. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

    #14 21st March 2012, 23:30

    Yeahh, ive had the head off and everything with this car haha, might just get a new engine
15. DeanAngell1234 Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Posts: 1424 Suzuki Swift SZ3 2003 Posi Blue VTS

    #15 21st March 2012, 23:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lhessey Yeahh, ive had the head off and everything with this car haha, might just get a new engine

    Is it a Furio? If so VTR lump it, the difference between the two engines is noticable haha
16. andy1weir Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 162

    #16 21st March 2012, 23:33

    think im just gonna put up with it for a while yet, cant afford a new car at the moment so
17. DeanAngell1234 Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Posts: 1424 Suzuki Swift SZ3 2003 Posi Blue VTS

    #17 21st March 2012, 23:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andy1weir think im just gonna put up with it for a while yet, cant afford a new car at the moment so

    Cars decide to break when you can't afford to mend them :/
18. andy1weir Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 162

    #18 21st March 2012, 23:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DeanAngell1234 Cars decide to break when you can't afford to mend them :/

    ye i have noticed in the past month ive had, driveshaft, new clutch 3 coilpacks, repaired exhaust, couple other things
19. DeanAngell1234 Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Posts: 1424 Suzuki Swift SZ3 2003 Posi Blue VTS

    #19 21st March 2012, 23:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andy1weir ye i have noticed in the past month ive had, driveshaft, new clutch 3 coilpacks, repaired exhaust, couple other things

    Not good mate It's annoying as you can never trust your car when it endlessly breaks down!
20. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

    #20 21st March 2012, 23:44

    Yeahh i think vtr lump is going to be the way forward for me soon Plug and play with a new ECU
21. DeanAngell1234 Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Trowbridge, Wiltshire Posts: 1424 Suzuki Swift SZ3 2003 Posi Blue VTS

    #21 21st March 2012, 23:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lhessey Yeahh i think vtr lump is going to be the way forward for me soon Plug and play with a new ECU

    That would be the most simple conversion.... If you wanted to push the boat out you could get a 16v engine
22. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

    #22 22nd March 2012, 00:01

    I cant be bothered with all the loom changing, if i wanted a vts i'd just get one vtr is easy
23. Diesel09 Newbie Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 18

    #23 22nd March 2012, 00:30

    Had this problem on my corsa b, turned out it was a split in a breather pipe,
    Worth taking a look
24. Cuzza12345 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Torquay Posts: 138 Saxo VTR (1.4 upgrade)

    #24 22nd March 2012, 01:07

    ECU is the only plausible thing that could still be causing this problem after changing/checking all the other sensors and cylinders. Do you have an erratic idle or is it just really weak?
25. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #25 24th March 2012, 00:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lhessey Yeahh i think vtr lump is going to be the way forward for me soon Plug and play with a new ECU

    if your going to convert you may as well stick a 16v in. its no more work than the 8v
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by lhessey I cant be bothered with all the loom changing, if i wanted a vts i'd just get one vtr is easy

    you would be taking the loom out anyway to swap the engines?
26. lhessey Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR

    #26 24th March 2012, 01:17

    Its just like lumpy car feels like I'm sat in a trractor occasionally, and you can use the 1.4 loom with a vtr engine if I am correct
27. OMGASAXO Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 Derby Posts: 1021 Posi saxo, flatty, Peugeot bipper, Vauxhall vectra

    #27 24th March 2012, 01:29

    Mines similar it juddered when crusing for example 30mph in 4th gear it will judder until I add a it of throttle and speed up given up on it and just got use to it cause nothing will sort it lol