rallye "J" cam fit a blacktop R head?

1. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #1 25th March 2012, 15:39

   cant seem to find any info on this, was brought to my attention there are 3 bearing sizes... i thought there was only 2..
   
   planned on salvaging the J cam from a warped rallye head i just bought and using it in a VTR black top head
   
   anyone know if it'll fit?
2. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #2 25th March 2012, 21:19

   anyone?
3. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #3 25th March 2012, 22:43

   The info I got was from a thread I made a while back from a user called vtr_chris90, think he had some sort of hybrid 8v on bodies or similar. He said that it wouldnt fit in a normal vtr blacktop head, had to be a rallye/xsi head but I cant find the thread again now!
4. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

   #4 25th March 2012, 23:00

   I thought there were two bearing sizes, but since been assured that - as above - a rallye cam will only fit a rallye head.
5. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #5 26th March 2012, 08:43

   Balls, that means the brand new seal won't fit the vtr head either
   
   Cheers lads
6. gazza808 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 591

   #6 26th March 2012, 11:04

   A rallye cam, will certainly not only fit a rallye head!
   My mate was running a rallye cam in his 1.6xsi head, which I'm led to believe is the same as the vtr head?
   May be wrong on the heads being the same though.
   
   Rallye forum is best place for an answer?
7. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #7 26th March 2012, 12:04

   Yeah I know they'll fit rallye or xsi, butvthoughtvtheyd fit a vtr too
8. tillygti6 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 897 106 ph1 rallye 106 gti 106 hybrid thing GTI~6

   #8 26th March 2012, 14:07

   is the early vtr the same as the ph2 rallye? if it is. itl fit, the 1.6 xsi engine is the same as the ph2 rallye. and the ph1 rallye cam definately fits the 1.6xsi.
9. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #9 26th March 2012, 14:16

   well if you got the head and the cam there give it a go 10min job to see
10. Gabbastard Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2002 United Kingdom Posts: 8390

    #10 26th March 2012, 15:01

    The odd thing is, Im sure Kent listed the same part number for their cam (PT11 or PT40, I forget which) which would suit a VTR or a S2 Rallye.
11. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #11 26th March 2012, 15:29

    I got a head on the way, I'll give it a blast when it gets here, it's off a 97 vtr so there's hope lol
12. tillygti6 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 897 106 ph1 rallye 106 gti 106 hybrid thing GTI~6

    #12 26th March 2012, 15:40

    is the differences in the cam bearing sizes between roller and solid rockers? iirc all the early pugs used non roller but unsure about citroen. some of the ph2 106s quickys etc had roller rockers, but sadly never measure one of there heads.
13. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #13 26th March 2012, 15:50

    Roller and non roller are two diff size, but apparently there were three bearing sizes, so I'd assume shitroen used a diff size on their non roller engines
14. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #14 27th March 2012, 19:34

    To fully wrap this up for any future reference, defo doesn't fit a blacktop vtr!!!
15. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #15 27th March 2012, 21:32

    thanks for confirming. Could sell it on Rallye Register and get a VTR one, you'll get good money for a J cam on there most likely

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16. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #16 27th March 2012, 21:35

    ive advertised it for £45 delivered...no takers yet