Locking wheel nuts?

1. user_56440 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Bingley, West Yorkshire Posts: 190 GTI-6, Icelandic VTS

   #1 30th March 2012, 17:14

   I'm sure this thread has been milked to death but I can never find any solid answers. I have a Saxo VTS and obviously I've lost the locking wheel nut key. I've tried the hammering on a smaller socket and even migged a nut onto it but the weld breaks before it turns. I've exhausted myself with ideas and a firm has said to me they can get them out for £70 a corner!!! Has anyone got any suggestions otherwise I'm gonna attempt to drill them out...
   
   Thanks
2. autograsser Newbie Joined: Mar 2012 tamworth Posts: 18 mk2 vtr & mk1 vtr for autograss racing

   #2 30th March 2012, 17:24

   there is some socket you can buy to get locking wheel nuts out with
3. dankspaxo Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 chesterfield Posts: 183 Citroen Saxo VTR , citroen c3 , gsxr 600 , dr600 ,

   #3 30th March 2012, 17:28

   Just cut a groove in them for a sharp chizel to fit in
4. dankspaxo Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 chesterfield Posts: 183 Citroen Saxo VTR , citroen c3 , gsxr 600 , dr600 ,

   #4 30th March 2012, 17:39

   Or u could drill a deepish hole into locking wheel nut , get a tap n dye set put threads in hole uve drilled and put a left hand thread bolt into it until its tight then it should turn the hole locking nut that's what I'd do

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5. jware92 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Colwyn Bay/Southend Posts: 608 Mk2 vts VXR engined astra

   #5 30th March 2012, 19:54

   An easy-out set is what you need, not sure how easy they ate to drill tho?
6. dankspaxo Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 chesterfield Posts: 183 Citroen Saxo VTR , citroen c3 , gsxr 600 , dr600 ,

   #6 30th March 2012, 20:05

   It can be done but its not easy to drill , I've got a few out we left thred bolt job , bust most have come out we sharp chisel
7. user_56440 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Bingley, West Yorkshire Posts: 190 GTI-6, Icelandic VTS

   #7 31st March 2012, 01:47

   How do I split the bolt with a chisel? I tried drilling today and its hardly even marked it...
8. DreamEater Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Hertfordshire Posts: 1574 '07 Saab 93 Vector Sport - '79 Citroën Dyane

   #8 31st March 2012, 02:13

   Did you use a HSS bit or a wood bit...
   
   I'm being serious.
9. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

   #9 31st March 2012, 02:24

   The weld has broken before the bolt loosened sounds like you need to find a decent welder. A nut welded to it with a 15mm hole in the middle welded properly can take 1 metric tonne of torque you are doing something wrong if your welds are braking.
10. jage Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 679

    #10 31st March 2012, 11:03

    I used a slightly bigger ior smaller socket i cant remember. With a breaker bar and an air wrench at my local kwikfit as lost my tool
11. user_56440 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Bingley, West Yorkshire Posts: 190 GTI-6, Icelandic VTS

    #11 1st April 2012, 17:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DreamEater Did you use a HSS bit or a wood bit... I'm being serious.

    Well to say I'm a plant engineer by trade I hope I used a hs steel bit..
12. user_56440 Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Bingley, West Yorkshire Posts: 190 GTI-6, Icelandic VTS

    #12 1st April 2012, 17:07

    It was a friends mig that only does 120a. I have an arc at work which might get the locking bolt its self to actually fuse as the mig seemed to only fuse the M14 nut I put on. Maybe the arc might work better?
13. user_51160 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Norwich Posts: 538 Saxos (sold), Civic

    #13 2nd April 2012, 00:36

    I tried all sorts with mine... In the end, gave up, and went to the local Formula One Autocentre. Friendly chappie banged on some tool that looked like a screw-on socket and had the lot off in 5 minutes for a tenner.
    
    Saved a lot of hassle.
14. baker556 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 127.0.0.1 Posts: 4826 oem+ sax

    #14 2nd April 2012, 02:57

    http://www.screwfix.com/p/laser-emer...questid=295469
    
    Good luck
15. Bisto92 Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 Wilts Posts: 5 106 quiksilver mk1 mini

    #15 2nd April 2012, 10:42

    I used persistence and the technique of smashing a socket on it, took about 30 mins to do all four, and a lot of brute force and ignorance!
    
    I went to Peugeot when I lost mine, and asked if they had a master set like BMW etc do, they said no but if I give them the number off they wheel nut key they could get me another one hahaha. I wouldn't of been there if I had the key!!
16. dankspaxo Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 chesterfield Posts: 183 Citroen Saxo VTR , citroen c3 , gsxr 600 , dr600 ,

    #16 2nd April 2012, 11:05

    U could make one if you know someone with a cnc machine