Important! : hit a pothole and car died on me

1. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

   #1 4th April 2012, 23:49

   hi people my vts died after hitting a pothole. the car will turn over and you can hear it trying to start and will start for a spit second and cut out. i pushed the BIG RED BUTTON as it had tripped but still the car won't start i checked all the connections that i could see as it. happened on a country road at 11 pm and i could hardly see anything.
   no idea what it could be to be honest i'm gutted as just brought tax £150 quid and what the fucking tax covers has fucked me car up
2. user_10801 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2006 Somewhere nicer than you Posts: 32356 S2 Exige 240S, CLS63 AMG, Freelander

   #2 4th April 2012, 23:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by dj_enzo i'm gutted as just brought tax £150 quid and what the fucking tax covers has fucked me car up

   Where did you bring it from?
   
   Also road tax doesn't pay for road maintenance
3. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

   #3 5th April 2012, 00:17

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Viper Where did you bring it from? Also road tax doesn't pay for road maintenance

   thanks for your time mate

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4. Manolis L-plater Joined: May 2011 Greece Posts: 51 Mk2 Vts

   #4 5th April 2012, 00:53

   Try erasing all the faults from the ecu.My friend had the same problem after running over a pot hole and he pressed the red button as well but it didnt work.He erased all the faults the next day at a mechanic and the car started.Hope this works for you as well
5. jailbreakvito Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2011 Leeds Posts: 296 1.1 2001 Forte

   #5 5th April 2012, 09:42

   That happened to me mate almost a year back. Hit a massive pothole, car died couldn't start it. Had to get my mate to come and jump it. Would bump at all. Never got down to why it stopped but kept cutting out. Turns out that my starter motor was fucked. Must have had something to do with the pothole.
6. leej Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2011 leicester Posts: 162 Saxo furio

   #6 5th April 2012, 09:49

   either take the big plug that goes to the ecu out or just take the live off the battery for 30 mins it resets the ecu without a diagnostics

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7. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #7 5th April 2012, 09:51

   Check your earths on the gearbox its possible the jolt of hitting the pothole has dislodged the earths.

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8. user_41433 Established Member Joined: Feb 2010 8 inches in your mum Posts: 1007 Lexus LS400 V8 Range Rover 4.6 litre HSE V8

   #8 5th April 2012, 10:03

   The big red button
9. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

   #9 5th April 2012, 10:04

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stevo67 Check your earths on the gearbox its possible the jolt of hitting the pothole has dislodged the earths.

   This if it's not even turning.
   
   If its turning over but not starting try disconnecting the battery for a while to clear the ECU

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10. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #10 5th April 2012, 12:41

    thanks people gonna try them things now
11. mcjacko1987 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Rochdale Posts: 1896 mk2 saxo 1.4 furio in possi blue

    #11 5th April 2012, 12:46

    as said the big red button. happened to me, hit a pot holl car cut out. checked everything but never crossed me mind being the fuel cut off switch. waited over an hour for rac just to come and go click lol.
    was the hole you hit on your left wheel by any chance? cos the fuel cut of switch is mounted to the chassis right next to the strut its quite sensitive.
12. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #12 5th April 2012, 12:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leej either take the big plug that goes to the ecu out or just take the live off the battery for 30 mins it resets the ecu without a diagnostics

    And lock the ECU?
13. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #13 5th April 2012, 12:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mcjacko1987 as said the big red button. happened to me, hit a pot holl car cut out. checked everything but never crossed me mind being the fuel cut off switch. waited over an hour for rac just to come and go click lol. was the hole you hit on your left wheel by any chance? cos the fuel cut of switch is mounted to the chassis right next to the strut its quite sensitive.

    like said in first post i pushed the switch as it had triggered it but even after i had pushed it it still wouldn't start and just flashes up the service icon now. you can hear it go to start but then it just carries on turning over without starting
14. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #14 5th April 2012, 12:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle And lock the ECU?

    its not a vts conversion mate its just a vts so wouldn't lock the ecu as it never was unlocked in the first place
15. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #15 5th April 2012, 12:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle And lock the ECU?

    It doesn't lock the ECU you fool
16. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #16 5th April 2012, 12:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo180 It doesn't lock the ECU you fool

    April fools..
17. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #17 5th April 2012, 13:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle April fools..

    April falled 5 days ago now loool

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18. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #18 5th April 2012, 13:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dj_enzo April falled 5 days ago now loool

    Dude, dont drag my fail on.
19. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #19 5th April 2012, 13:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle Dude, dont drag my fail on.

    its ok mate. you thanked me for making that knob in the first reply look like a dick
20. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #20 5th April 2012, 13:33

    ok well reset the ecu and it still doing the same thing kinda stumped here. its definitely getting petrol as i can smell it so nothing to do with the fuel cut off switch. the car is turning over a catches for a split second but then just dies. so must be getting some sort of spark to do that. so kinda out of ideas checked the gearbox earth and seams to be fine going to take battery out and have a better look around the box and engine for any other earths i've missed. i did notice that one of the gearbox bolts was loose yesterday so going to tighten up all the gear box bolt to make sure the engine and gear box have a tight seal. but surey if it was an earthing issue the battery light would be on not service spanner?
21. jware92 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Colwyn Bay/Southend Posts: 608 Mk2 vts VXR engined astra

    #21 5th April 2012, 13:38

    Is the coilpack plugged in? My vts died a few weeks back after goin down a bump road, just came unplugged
22. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #22 5th April 2012, 14:08

    OK well tightened the all up and made not a jot of difference. checked all the earths and made sure the parts was earthed by putting a piece of wire on the positive terminal and making sure it sparked. Reset the service spanner to see if it would disappear and it just reset the the miles but the spanner remained. only thing i can think of is that the wires feel a bit tight around the engine bay like there caught on something i thing the starter motor and maybe have snagged and broke a wire in that case its auto electrician time as i have no idea about that sort of thing. any help would be really appreciated
23. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #23 5th April 2012, 14:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jware92 Is the coilpack plugged in? My vts died a few weeks back after going down a bump road, just came unplugged

    yep it is first thing i checked last night
24. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #24 5th April 2012, 17:20

    completely stumped any ideas people need to get this fixed by the weekend
25. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #25 5th April 2012, 17:24

    Check the connector on the fuel pump and check the relay under the ECU is good.
26. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #26 5th April 2012, 17:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cam Check the connector on the fuel pump and check the relay under the ECU is good.

    fuel pump in priming fine and all you can smell in the engine bay is petrol mate
27. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #27 5th April 2012, 18:42

    Have you checked the connector under the inlet manifold ?
28. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #28 5th April 2012, 18:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cam Have you checked the connector under the inlet manifold ?

    no i haven't i completely forgot about that one. let me have a look
29. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #29 5th April 2012, 18:58

    Fiddle with the crank position sensor like its your willy.
30. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #30 5th April 2012, 19:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mochachino Fiddle with the crank position sensor like its your willy.

    played with it loads think i'm just gonna wait till diagnostics cable arrives and get it down to the local garage for them to sort as i'm making sure that the council pay for the damage caused, fucking charge enough for 6 months tax and i don't get away with out paying that so why should they get out of paying for something they broke (my car)
31. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #31 5th April 2012, 19:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dj_enzo no i haven't i completely forgot about that one. let me have a look

    Any luck
32. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #32 5th April 2012, 19:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cam Any luck

    nope and battery died after and got no charger here so kinda fucked up now for the weekend as got no car. think if i don't smash it to pieces i'm gonna sell it as i'm fucking sick of problems with these french pieces of shit
33. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #33 8th April 2012, 17:28

    Get her running mate?
34. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #34 8th April 2012, 17:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cam Get her running mate?

    nope still no joy away from the car at the minute as i broke down near gfs and got it back to hers. just waiting for the obd2 cable to come so i can do a check on what might be wrong with it
35. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #35 8th April 2012, 17:33

    Oh cool mate. Hopefully you will get her running
36. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #36 8th April 2012, 17:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cam Oh cool mate. Hopefully you will get her running

    i hope so i'm lost without my car feel like i've lost a limb lol
37. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #37 19th April 2012, 15:45

    still not got this started need to really. anymore ideas what it might be people?
38. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #38 19th April 2012, 15:46

    i'm thinking knock sensor but would that show up on the diagnostics? as just got mine through the post today but its at home and the cars at me mrs
39. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #39 19th April 2012, 16:10

    Does it run on a bit of easy start? Mine was being a bugger yesterday to get going in the damp weather - had to use to some easy start to and a bit of throttle to get it to fire up
40. user_27808 Established Member Joined: Oct 2008 west london Posts: 1150 rx8 (vag 1.8t project) civic type r (ep3)

    #40 23rd April 2012, 20:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 Does it run on a bit of easy start? Mine was being a bugger yesterday to get going in the damp weather - had to use to some easy start to and a bit of throttle to get it to fire up

    doubt it would to be honest as its definitely something wrong as the little spanner has come up on the dash. even tho i've reset the service miles so should have tuned the spanner off. i reset the ecu. i checked all the connectors going to the sensors. i recon its either the wiring loom has a break in it somewhere or the knock sensor is to fault or coilpack. but dunno how hitting a pothole would cause those to fail? i've got the diagnostics machine but as i reset the ecu would the fault codes remain?
41. JohnnyBoy66 Newbie Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 3 Saxo VTS 2003, BMW 320i 1998

    #41 3rd February 2016, 06:20

    So mate what was causing your problem?
    I'm asking because I'm having the exact same issue with my 2003 VTS after hitting a pothole and I've already tried everything mentioned here but with no success.
    How did you solve your issue?
42. JohnnyBoy66 Newbie Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 3 Saxo VTS 2003, BMW 320i 1998

    #42 3rd February 2016, 07:07

    I hit a pothole the engine stopped 3-5 seconds later. It did turn over but it would not start at all. I guessed it probable tripped off the fuel cut switch, popped the hood, Pressed it in, thought that was it but... Turns over and starts but doesn't keep running, engine starts for half a second (it reaches 800rpm) and and cuts out.
    
    I've seen quite a few post with this exact issue with no solution.
43. JohnnyBoy66 Newbie Joined: Feb 2016 Posts: 3 Saxo VTS 2003, BMW 320i 1998

    #43 9th February 2016, 11:58

    Okay I had it fixed.
44. BUMMERS Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2016 manchester Posts: 256

    #44 24th February 2016, 11:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JohnnyBoy66 Okay I had it fixed.

    So what was the problem?