1.1 5th Gear Problem

1. Swifteater Newbie Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 7

   #1 6th April 2012, 01:17

   Hey everyone.
   
   My mate has a 1.1 Saxo Forte but has suddenly had a problem with 5th gear.
   All the other gears work fine but when he shifts into 5th the car won't rev any higher or gain any speed, however it can lose revs and speed. This happens at any amount of revs (as soon as he changes into 5th).
   
   It doesn't seem to be making any noise that would suggest it's broken.
   
   Any suggestions?
   
   Thanks.
2. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

   #2 6th April 2012, 01:23

   probably doesn't have the power to keep pulling in 5th
   
   trololol.
   
   no idea mate, fine in any other gear would suggest that 5th however is "broken"
3. Swifteater Newbie Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 7

   #3 6th April 2012, 01:36

   Yeah. I couldn't think of anything because it does go into 5th still and keeps any previous speed you had, it just can't get anymore.
4. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

   #4 6th April 2012, 01:37

   and what speed is it that you are trying to achieve?
5. Swifteater Newbie Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 7

   #5 6th April 2012, 01:39

   Anything from 30-70. Whatever speed you are at when you shift into fifth is the fastest it will go.
6. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

   #6 6th April 2012, 01:41

   the box is definately broken then, i guess the cheapest option would be to buy a new box rather than have it refurbished.
7. Swifteater Newbie Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 7

   #7 6th April 2012, 01:43

   Do you know a rough price on that for a saxo?
   I know gearboxes are usually pricey.
8. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

   #8 6th April 2012, 01:48

   http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_nk...arboxox&_rdc=1
   
   top out at about £100 or so it seems, best getting a 1.1 box again really to keep the same ratios.
9. Swifteater Newbie Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 7

   #9 6th April 2012, 01:51

   Ok, thanks. Hopefully that'll be a last resort but it seems it might come to it soon.
10. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #10 6th April 2012, 01:57

    Has it had some sort of extra long fifth gear added to the box? Hence the inability to pull in that gear? It should still gain speed in fifth gear however, it goes against all the principles of how the engine and box work. Got a video of it doing this?
11. Swifteater Newbie Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 7

    #11 6th April 2012, 02:04

    I'll see if I can get a video.
    The box is totally standard and it just started doing it. Has me stumped because if it an hold the speed it's obviously making a connection to the engine and to the axle. All I can think of is maybe an ECU/electrical problem?
12. user_23598 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 Bradford Posts: 523 5 Door! Saxo 1.1

    #12 6th April 2012, 06:10

    an electrical problem sounds probable, maybe it has some kind of limitation on speed from the ecu ?
    try going faster in 4th gear and see if when you change to fifth it holds the previous speed at least.
    i would of thought if the gearbox was foobard it would make some not so nice noises
13. Swifteater Newbie Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 7

    #13 6th April 2012, 10:45

    It does hold any speed when you change into fifth, if it's slow or fast.
    I also thought it would make some horrible noises.
    Should I try and get a fault code reader on it?