Laser spring compressors

1. user_58507 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 N.Yorkshire Posts: 115 '00 black Saxo VTR '00 Posi blue Furio

   #1 12th April 2012, 23:00

   Just bought a set of Laser spring compressors from Halfrauds and, though it didn't say anything on the outside of the box, in the instructions it says they are not recommended for dual rate or progressive springs but doesn't say why not.
   Has anyone had any experience of them and what do you think? I'm going past tomorrow so can take them back but if not them, what would you recommend?
2. BritishMonkey Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Scottish Borders Posts: 110 2000 Furio 1.4 2002 Corsa 1.0 2002 Corsa 1.0 20

   #2 12th April 2012, 23:18

   Black bolt with silver hooks that arent very "hooky"? iv got a set and they are s**t, came off when compressing a spring and hit my hand...
3. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

   #3 12th April 2012, 23:20

   Dual rate valve springs are only made up of two springs (normally a smaller spring situated inside of the main valve spring) and progressive valve springs are just coiled slightly tighter at one end than the other, cant see why you would need any special spring compressor, as they all do the same job tbh
4. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

   #4 12th April 2012, 23:21

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by BritishMonkey Black bolt with silver hooks that arent very "hooky"? iv got a set and they are s**t, came off when compressing a spring and hit my hand...

   +1 to this, i got hit in the jaw by one when it decided to go twang, lost a collet aswell
5. user_58507 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 N.Yorkshire Posts: 115 '00 black Saxo VTR '00 Posi blue Furio

   #5 12th April 2012, 23:48

   No, not the silver hook type. These are all black and have fairly wide double hooks.
   They look and feel decent quality and. like you Snake, I can't see why you'd need a different type of puller for progressive springs!
   The hooks aren't big and bulky so should fit between closer spaced coils OK. If they looked cheap tat I'd take them back but they look OK so I'll chance it.
   They're probably just covering their legal arses.
6. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

   #6 13th April 2012, 05:53

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SnakeVTR Dual rate valve springs are only made up of two springs (normally a smaller spring situated inside of the main valve spring) and progressive valve springs are just coiled slightly tighter at one end than the other, cant see why you would need any special spring compressor, as they all do the same job tbh

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by SnakeVTR +1 to this, i got hit in the jaw by one when it decided to go twang, lost a collet aswell

   He's on about suspension coil compressors. Not valve spring removal.

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7. user_58507 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 N.Yorkshire Posts: 115 '00 black Saxo VTR '00 Posi blue Furio

   #7 13th April 2012, 18:44

   Yes, for suspension not valve springs. Too tired to spot that last night!
   
   I tried the jaw on the standard coils of my VTR today and they are a nice snug secure fit so will chance it.
   
   http://www.lasertools.co.uk/item.aspx?item=1480
8. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

   #8 13th April 2012, 18:47

   As long as they're used correctly, they'll be fine mate. Just make sure they're each tightened bit by bit, and take your time. Majority of accidents caused by spring compressors are from incorrect use.
9. user_58507 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 N.Yorkshire Posts: 115 '00 black Saxo VTR '00 Posi blue Furio

   #9 13th April 2012, 18:56

   Yeah, In the instructions they say 10mm at a time for each side but I was thinking even that sounded a lot. I'll take it steady.
   Cheers
10. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #10 13th April 2012, 21:32

    these are the laser ones i have
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LASER-0290...item1e62ceb305
11. user_58507 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 N.Yorkshire Posts: 115 '00 black Saxo VTR '00 Posi blue Furio

    #11 14th April 2012, 19:52

    Like the idea of the safety hooks.
    
    Did it say anything in the instructions about not recommended for progressives?
    
    The hooks on those look thicker than on mine which, I would have thought, would be an issue where the coils get closer together
12. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #12 14th April 2012, 19:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TomiX Like the idea of the safety hooks. Did it say anything in the instructions about not recommended for progressives? The hooks on those look thicker than on mine which, I would have thought, would be an issue where the coils get closer together

    It says in the advert that they're not recommended for progressive rate springs.
13. user_58507 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 N.Yorkshire Posts: 115 '00 black Saxo VTR '00 Posi blue Furio

    #13 14th April 2012, 20:09

    You're right it does (hadn't scrolled down!) but I still don't understand why not.
    and, if not, wtf are you supposed to use?
14. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #14 14th April 2012, 20:30

    ive used them for standard and lowered progressive springs, a spring clamp is a spring clam in my eyes lol ive never had any problems what so ever, didnt even know i wasnt supposed to use them for certain springs and i dont even use the safety hooks too much hassle lol
15. BritishMonkey Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Scottish Borders Posts: 110 2000 Furio 1.4 2002 Corsa 1.0 2002 Corsa 1.0 20

    #15 15th April 2012, 16:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffchiz ive used them for standard and lowered progressive springs, a spring clamp is a spring clam in my eyes lol ive never had any problems what so ever, didnt even know i wasnt supposed to use them for certain springs and i dont even use the safety hooks too much hassle lol

    Then i hope it comes off and hits you in the face, teach you a lesson. Hope you don't do as much bodging to safety essential parts of a car.
16. user_39740 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 near manchester Posts: 1190 vtr'd FURIO....

    #16 15th April 2012, 20:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BritishMonkey Then i hope it comes off and hits you in the face, teach you a lesson. Hope you don't do as much bodging to safety essential parts of a car.

    A little harsh don't you think , Ive used cable ties in the past it's not really your place to tell people how they should do stuff
17. user_36198 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2009 ilkeston derbyshire Posts: 9823 C2 VTR stripped, 406hdi, clio 172

    #17 15th April 2012, 21:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BritishMonkey Then i hope it comes off and hits you in the face, teach you a lesson. Hope you don't do as much bodging to safety essential parts of a car.

    did you pass your a-level in being a cock then?