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1. DundeeUnited Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 Invergowrie Posts: 1006 Saxo VTR

   #1 12th April 2012, 23:48

   I basically need someone to hold my hand as im going to change my coolant,
   
   Now ill say what i think i need to do and if its wrong then please correct me
   
   looking at the engine 8v
   I take off the bottom left hose at bottom of rad, drain into a bucket, put a garden hose up either the pipe or the rad from that point?
   
   Then take off the pipe to the right of the rad leading to the thermo housing. put hose in pipe cleaning out rad?
   
   then re-join all pipes, get a coke bottle and fill up coolant until the "header tank" is 2/3 full, then do bleeding points one at a time, 3 of them,
   
   Turn engine on and let bubbles come out of header tank?
   
   If this is not the case then let me know as i am a tit
2. tarzan Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Lurgan Posts: 767 2001 black saxo furio 2001 black saxo vts

   #2 12th April 2012, 23:52

   all fine. taking the two rad hoses off and blast water up in through the hoses is fine. it will take a while to bleed and the clips for the hoses can be wee bastids
3. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #3 12th April 2012, 23:55

   also need the heaters turned on

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4. DundeeUnited Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 Invergowrie Posts: 1006 Saxo VTR

   #4 12th April 2012, 23:55

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by tarzan all fine. taking the two rad hoses off and blast water up in through the hoses is fine. it will take a while to bleed and the clips for the hoses can be wee bastids

   so do i just keep pouring coolant in until its in the header tank? and open all three bleed points?
5. user_58024 Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 377

   #5 12th April 2012, 23:59

   where are the three bleed point ( soz for busting in on yr thread, i m waiting for my haynes to turn up) cheers si
6. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #6 12th April 2012, 23:59

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Vtrsi76 where are the three bleed point ( soz for busting in on yr thread, i m waiting for my haynes to turn up) cheers si

   one on the rad, one at the back left of engine as you look at it and another where the thermostat is at front right of engine

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7. tarzan Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Lurgan Posts: 767 2001 black saxo furio 2001 black saxo vts

   #7 13th April 2012, 00:01

   yeah, while running your car. open the bleed cap to the left of the inlet and pour loads of water in. when it starts to over flow undo the bleed cap on the right side of the rad. there is a wee plastic flange on the header tank that is the max. its handy old job

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8. DundeeUnited Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 Invergowrie Posts: 1006 Saxo VTR

   #8 13th April 2012, 00:06

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by tarzan yeah, while running your car. open the bleed cap to the left of the inlet and pour loads of water in. when it starts to over flow undo the bleed cap on the right side of the rad. there is a wee plastic flange on the header tank that is the max. its handy old job

   Last Question
   so does the car have to be on while im doing the bleeding,
   Or do i bleed the car first then turn the car on and let the bubble come up through header tank ?
9. Baz Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2005 Coventry Posts: 17782 Fiesta ST150

   #9 13th April 2012, 00:21

   yeah car needs to be running when bleeding
10. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #10 13th April 2012, 00:35

    Take the stat out too and flush the engine properly. Might as well renew it while you are there too if its a bit manky looking as they are cheap, you dont want it failing on you and sticking shut/open.
    
    This is what I do to bleed:
    Header tank/self made one from a bottle in the radiator, fill system with coolant and water mix
    Keep going til the header tank is about half full. Open the bleed screws on the rad, stat housing and the heater pipes in that and wait for the coolant to flow from them in a steady stream then lock them off. Top up the header tank/bottle to half full if it needs it and then start the car until the stat open (pipe to the rad from the stat gets warm) and wait for the fan to cut in and out a couple of times. Switch off and let it fully cool before you remove the bottle/header tank. Top up the radiator header tank if need be then its job done.
11. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #11 13th April 2012, 01:12

    car doesnt have to be on while bleeding
    i do it with it off.
    
    this is what i do...
    remove bottom hose, drain it out, undo top hose and stick hosepipe in to flush out.
    
    Then undo the thermostat housing, remove thermostat, put thermostat housing back on with top hose attached, and flush with hosepipe.
    
    replace thermostat and connect up all the hoses.
    
    open all bleed points.
    
    Dont need a coke bottle or anything, just pour in the coolant mixture slowly until it starts constantly flowing out the first bleed point (radiator) .
    
    Shut it off, and wait for water to constantly pour out the 2nd point (thermostat housing).
    
    Shut it off, and wait for the third bleed point to start to spit water out. It wont constantly pour out becuase its quite high, so what i do is form a seal around the top of the coolant bottom with your hands and mouth, and blow! have someone waiting there for the air bubbles to stop to throw on the little cap.
    
    Then after this i start the car up with heaters on etc. and go through the bleeding process once more quickly to make sure
    
    ^this way has never failed me on these TU engines
12. danny-vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr

    #12 13th April 2012, 03:23

    as above ^^^^
13. FurioAndy Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Newcastle Posts: 517 Saxo Furio Mark 2

    #13 13th April 2012, 07:21

    Guess of you have a hosepipe on the south your fucked
14. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

    #14 13th April 2012, 13:55

    Dundee, You asked the same question just the other week, and someone gave you this thread to read. It explains it perfectly...
    
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98877
    
    Its a perfect guide. print it off and use it as you go, or buy a haynes manual.
15. DundeeUnited Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 Invergowrie Posts: 1006 Saxo VTR

    #15 13th April 2012, 23:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AnthonyMartin Dundee, You asked the same question just the other week, and someone gave you this thread to read. It explains it perfectly... http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98877 Its a perfect guide. print it off and use it as you go, or buy a haynes manual.

    it doesnt or i wouldnt of asked
16. DundeeUnited Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 Invergowrie Posts: 1006 Saxo VTR

    #16 15th April 2012, 23:20

    Is it possible to flush the engine without removing the thermostat?
    
    I'm changing coolant tomorrow and want to know where to put the hose, do i stick it in the bottom hose? or in the rad?
17. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

    #17 15th April 2012, 23:21

    Flushing The Engine
    
    1. Remove Thermostat And Replace The Housing.
    2. Put A Hose Pipe Into The Top Hose And Wait Till Clean Water Emerges From The Bottom Hose Via Engine (You can use a engine cleaner here)
    3. Replace The Thermostat(If in good condition inc seal)
    4. Connect All Hoses
    5. Fill With Water And Antifreeze Mix Using A Header Tank On The Expansion Tank.
    7. Bleed System And Check For Leaks.
18. DundeeUnited Established Member Joined: Nov 2010 Invergowrie Posts: 1006 Saxo VTR

    #18 16th April 2012, 19:02

    Replaced coolant today at the expense of a the thermostat bleed nipple which snapped off, half the coolant pissed out of the system, however i had an old coilpack bolt and managed to get the bolt out so all was good, coolant is really low so will top up tomorrow, and iv tried numerous time but the radiator wont bleed at all, but the temp has been ok so is it necessary? and also it seems to cool down quicker which probably sounds ridiculous as iv just put in new coolant. but assuming its ok
19. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

    #19 16th April 2012, 22:07

    Get a new nipple xD And yes you gotta bleed ALL of it. The temp might seem ok now but you will most likely have an air lock...