17" wheels - rubbing

1. badluckwithcars Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 Leicestershire Posts: 6 2002 Silver Saxo Furio

   #1 14th April 2012, 17:16

   Hi
   
   Right, I bought some 17" alloys from a guy who said they had come off a Saxo.
   
   Two of the tyres has 45 profile tyres, and two had 40. The 45's didn't fit on the back because of the pipe from the fuel filler cap. The 40's wouldn't fit on the rear either as the tyre was rubbing on the arm holding the hub.
   
   I've taken an angle grinder to the front to accommodate the 45's (but more work is needed as it's still rubbing! ). I've bought spacers to fit the rear wheels (10mm), I just need to get some extended bolts to fit them.
   
   I'm starting to doubt they ever came from a Saxo though, and to drive 150 miles to take them back again is out of the question...! Has anyone ever fitted this size on a Saxo Furio before? Is there anything major I should be taking note of? Thanks in advance
2. burtoni Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2012 cornwall Posts: 193 citreon saxo vts 2000 bmw 330d 2002 scooby wrx 200

   #2 14th April 2012, 17:18

   tbh 17's on a saxo are way to big! you need to sell um and gets some 15's the 17's
   probably would fit but thats alot of work for nothing
3. badluckwithcars Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 Leicestershire Posts: 6 2002 Silver Saxo Furio

   #3 14th April 2012, 17:23

   On the front, they do look amazing... will get some pictures up
   
   I think it's worth the effort in my opinion, as it's different!
   
   But it is possible though? With only modifications to the arch?
4. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

   #4 14th April 2012, 17:27

   It's possible. It's a lot of work. It's not worth it (in my opinion) & It doesn't look "amazing" (in my opinion)
5. badluckwithcars Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 Leicestershire Posts: 6 2002 Silver Saxo Furio

   #5 14th April 2012, 17:35

   Haha it matches the rest of my car, trust me
   
   Thank you for the help!
6. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

   #6 14th April 2012, 17:40

   Ok.
   
   I'm not that clued up on trying to fit that size alloy. But AFAIK, you will need 40 profile tyres, kiss goodbye to your arch liners, roll the lip on the rear arch & grind the arches to buggery.
7. badluckwithcars Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 Leicestershire Posts: 6 2002 Silver Saxo Furio

   #7 14th April 2012, 17:50

   I've just come across this thread which is basically what I'm aiming for.
   
   Of course I don't have the body kit as of yet or modified suspension....
   
   I'm just slightly worried that I'll have to modify more a lot sooner than planned to accommodate these wheels... And there also isn't really any going back as I only have 2 steel oem wheels remaining (left the other 2 with the seller )
   
   We'll see how it goes tomorrow
8. leej Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2011 leicester Posts: 162 Saxo furio

   #8 14th April 2012, 17:58

   i have 17s on mine and only rub when going a little fast round bends etc
9. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

   #9 14th April 2012, 18:05

   What I can say is, the drum brake rear beam (as fitted to the furio) is slightly wider to the disk brake beam. So the arches will be naturally narrower.
10. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #10 15th April 2012, 09:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mr_P What I can say is, the drum brake rear beam (as fitted to the furio) is slightly wider to the disk brake beam. So the arches will be naturally narrower.

    the drum brake beam is narrower than the disk beam
11. jware92 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Colwyn Bay/Southend Posts: 608 Mk2 vts VXR engined astra

    #11 15th April 2012, 10:04

    Im pretty sure you would need 35s theoretically, as 16s use 40 profile
12. billytalbott Established Member Joined: May 2009 Near Loughborough Posts: 2152 Mk2 Flat Arch

    #12 15th April 2012, 10:22

    My mate is using 17s on his saxo vtr I think he is using 10mm spacers, I would think you will need 15mm spacers on the back as I'm using 5mm spacers on the back of my 1.1 saxo to accommodate vts alloys
13. CJMackin Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 342

    #13 15th April 2012, 10:27

    35 tyres will be expensive, but small, even stretched tyres will be your best bet.
    
    What width are the 17s?
14. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #14 15th April 2012, 10:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kennym1987 the drum brake beam is narrower than the disk beam

    Ah yes, I remember now.
    
    The flat arches are narrower cos the VT kit cuts away part of the rear quarter.
15. badluckwithcars Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 Leicestershire Posts: 6 2002 Silver Saxo Furio

    #15 15th April 2012, 15:00

    Thanks for all the help guys!
    
    I can confirm that the wheels fit without issues.
    
    I have 45 profiles on the front (wheel arch liner had to be removed, but who needs them anyway!), with slight rubbing with full lock to the left (more grinding needed), and 40 profiles on the rear with 10mm spacers. After grinding the arch down to the plastic trim (removing the lip), I just grabbed it and pulled it out slightly.
    
    No scraping from the rear when going over bumps, and slight scraping when hard cornering.
    
    I can live with that
    
    I can upload pictures of where I ground the metal away if it helps anyone?
    
    Again, Cheers guys
16. CJMackin Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 342

    #16 15th April 2012, 15:05

    Wouldnt mind seeing some pics of the car with the wheels on mate, what type of wheels are they?
17. badluckwithcars Newbie Joined: Jan 2012 Leicestershire Posts: 6 2002 Silver Saxo Furio

    #17 15th April 2012, 15:10

    They're a set of Mak alloys. They're not anything special, but were better than the steels.
    
    Especially when you get them for helping someone
    
    Once it stops hailing I'll go take some pics
18. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #18 15th April 2012, 16:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by badluckwithcars Thanks for all the help guys! I can confirm that the wheels fit without issues. I have 45 profiles on the front (wheel arch liner had to be removed, but who needs them anyway!), with slight rubbing with full lock to the left (more grinding needed), and 40 profiles on the rear with 10mm spacers. After grinding the arch down to the plastic trim (removing the lip), I just grabbed it and pulled it out slightly. No scraping from the rear when going over bumps, and slight scraping when hard cornering. I can live with that I can upload pictures of where I ground the metal away if it helps anyone? Again, Cheers guys

    Just remember to keep your wheel arches clean or rot will set in,thats what the liners are there for.