Difference between a 1.1 and vts

1. tony5haw1988 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 tyne and wear Posts: 498 saxo vts ph2

   #1 15th April 2012, 10:38

   Trying to find out what differences the 1.1 shell has to the vts shell, I know the rear arches are different and the rear axle has no abs and drums, am just trying to find out if you can strip a 1.1 and build a vts in it without any other major alterations to mounts etc can anybody help?
   
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2. mcjacko1987 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Rochdale Posts: 1896 mk2 saxo 1.4 furio in possi blue

   #2 15th April 2012, 10:40

   yup. swap everything over and use the 1.1 shell fine. nice little sleeper
3. tony5haw1988 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 tyne and wear Posts: 498 saxo vts ph2

   #3 15th April 2012, 10:42

   Cheers mate so the shells are the same? I can just use all my vts parts and job done? No mods at all to make anything fit?
   
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4. tony5haw1988 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 tyne and wear Posts: 498 saxo vts ph2

   #4 15th April 2012, 10:47

   Right ok my second question is if I. Buy a mk1 saxo can I just bolt my front lights, bumper, wings, bonnet and grille on it and give it a face lift?
   
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5. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

   #5 15th April 2012, 10:51

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   Originally Posted by tony5haw1988 Right ok my second question is if I. Buy a mk1 saxo can I just bolt my front lights, bumper, wings, bonnet and grille on it and give it a face lift? Sent from my BlackBerry 9700 using Tapatalk

   landing bar aswell
6. leej Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2011 leicester Posts: 162 Saxo furio

   #6 15th April 2012, 10:51

   yes they should all fit. ive seen a 1.4 t reg on ebay for sale with mk2 front end
7. tony5haw1988 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 tyne and wear Posts: 498 saxo vts ph2

   #7 15th April 2012, 10:54

   Landing bar? Is that the cross member that runs across behind the front bumper? And are they just bolted on?
   
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8. Powely Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 Hereford Posts: 156 Saxo Furio 1.4 8v Standard.

   #8 15th April 2012, 10:55

   Don't forget To inform the dvla!!
9. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

   #9 15th April 2012, 10:56

   its what the headlights bolt on to. mk1 and mk2 are different
10. tony5haw1988 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 tyne and wear Posts: 498 saxo vts ph2

    #10 15th April 2012, 11:02

    Thanks for that subtle reminder there matey, and I will I'm only goin for the 1.1 shell coz my mates got 1 for cheap and its in decent condition compared to the vts
    
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11. tony5haw1988 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 tyne and wear Posts: 498 saxo vts ph2

    #11 15th April 2012, 11:03

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    Originally Posted by kennym1987 its what the headlights bolt on to. mk1 and mk2 are different

    Cheers mate I'll have a look when the engine is out of mine
    
    
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12. rey Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 8205 :(s)rac

    #12 15th April 2012, 11:08

    Pretty sure the 1.1 needs the top VTS engine mount welding on.
    
    Not 100% mind, may just be the 1.0.
13. W343NNA Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 770

    #13 15th April 2012, 11:10

    everythings changable, for the engine your going to need to run the return fuel line,
    
    As for MK1 to MK2 you have to cut about an inch off the ends of the cars shell to fit the mk2 wings as the mk1s are that little bit longer you will see exacly what i mean when it comes to fitting the wings and slam panel
14. tony5haw1988 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 tyne and wear Posts: 498 saxo vts ph2

    #14 15th April 2012, 11:11

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    Originally Posted by rey Pretty sure the 1.1 needs the top VTS engine mount welding on. Not 100% mind, may just be the 1.0.

    Somebody else said this too. Need to try find out before I buy
    
    
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15. W343NNA Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 770

    #15 15th April 2012, 11:11

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    Originally Posted by W343NNA everythings changable, for the engine your going to need to run the return fuel line, As for MK1 to MK2 you have to cut about an inch off the ends of the cars shell to fit the mk2 wings as the mk1s are that little bit longer you will see exacly what i mean when it comes to fitting the wings and slam panel

    Also as just said if its a MK2 it will have the feeble engine mount but its not a mk2 1.1 is it ? if it is the engine mount cradle needs welding on
16. tony5haw1988 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 tyne and wear Posts: 498 saxo vts ph2

    #16 15th April 2012, 11:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by W343NNA everythings changable, for the engine your going to need to run the return fuel line, As for MK1 to MK2 you have to cut about an inch off the ends of the cars shell to fit the mk2 wings as the mk1s are that little bit longer you will see exacly what i mean when it comes to fitting the wings and slam panel

    Cheers mate, so the return fuel line I can just take off the vts along with fuel pump?
    
    
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17. tony5haw1988 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 tyne and wear Posts: 498 saxo vts ph2

    #17 15th April 2012, 11:15

    This is starting to sound like a lot of work, are the vtr mounts the same as the vts?
    
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18. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #18 15th April 2012, 11:29

    you don't have to use a different engine mount as i'm still using the 1.1 mount. and you don't necessarily need to plumb in a return as mine already had one(early mk2 spi)
19. W343NNA Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 770

    #19 15th April 2012, 11:29

    yeah its alot of work it seems your doing it to try and scank your insurance,
    
    My advise if you are
    
    Buy a furio 1.4 vts engine will plonk straight in as long as ecus unlocked your better off with a W reg as there a change over year car and have a single plug interior loom for a greater selection of used vts engines, also vt kitted fitted
    
    Other than that Buy a vts.. lol, OR vtr will have the disc rear beam that the furio doesnt its not that much work to he ohnest if youv got a few pals that can help and a decent selection of tools
20. tony5haw1988 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 tyne and wear Posts: 498 saxo vts ph2

    #20 15th April 2012, 12:01

    might just keep my shell and spend the time cleaning it right up, it needs tax and a windscreen which is why I thought it may be easier and cheaper to buy a shell with tax and test so I can just insure and go, gonna be 100 for windscreen and 140 for 6 months tax. I dunno what's the sensible option as my judgement is clouded by the repaires the vts needs over the price of a new shell with tax and test
    
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21. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #21 15th April 2012, 12:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tony5haw1988 Landing bar? Is that the cross member that runs across behind the front bumper? And are they just bolted on? Sent from my BlackBerry 9700 using Tapatalk

    IE slam panel.
22. leej Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2011 leicester Posts: 162 Saxo furio

    #22 15th April 2012, 13:05

    100 for a windscreen? go scrappy will be cheaper than that
23. tony5haw1988 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2009 tyne and wear Posts: 498 saxo vts ph2

    #23 15th April 2012, 13:11

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    Originally Posted by leej 100 for a windscreen? go scrappy will be cheaper than that

    I would still have to pay some1 to fit for 40 quid and then pay for the windscreen and have the hasstle of removing it in the scrap yard and for the same of 20 to 30 quid I might aswell save myself the bother and have 1 supplied and fitted new for 100 quid
    
    
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24. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #24 15th April 2012, 13:33

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    Originally Posted by leej 100 for a windscreen? go scrappy will be cheaper than that

    Fitting a windscreen is a ball ache getting a pro to do it is more sensible.