Changed Gearbox Mount - Can't select 1st or 2nd gear

1. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

   #1 15th April 2012, 18:37

   Just put a new gearbox mount and 4-1 manifold on my car, can't seem to select 1st or 2nd now, the gearstick wont move to the left?
   
   can still get 3rd, 4th and 5 just won't go to the left.
   
   Did hear a slight clicking as i jacked the car down to the ground, but assumed the mount was settling, popped linkage do you think?
   
   A mate has said i might need to asjust the sideways play on the gearstick?
   
   Gonna go check the whole linkage system now but some advice would be appreciated.
2. BertieG Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 exeter, devon Posts: 1224 Clio 172

   #2 15th April 2012, 18:45

   linkage bashing on the exhaust? i had to hang off my manifold to bend it clear
3. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

   #3 15th April 2012, 18:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by BertieG linkage bashing on the exhaust? i had to hang off my manifold to bend it clear

   I'm wondering this to be honest, did you fit a raceland 4-1?
   
   I was using Piper but dented it + it doesnt have good lambda ports.
4. BertieG Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 exeter, devon Posts: 1224 Clio 172

   #4 15th April 2012, 18:58

   i already had a janspeed 4-1 fitted, only had the trouble when i went to fit my saxsport due to the flange being larger. the manifold had been knocked by the previous owner which must have bent it out of line
5. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

   #5 15th April 2012, 19:35

   You were right exhaust is the culprit.
   
   Think it may be because ive fitted the mount wrong though,
   
   I allowed the fork to hang down then tightened it.
   
   Am I right in thinking the fork should be pushed up as far as it will go by jacking the box, THEN tightening the bolt on the back bush?
6. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

   #6 15th April 2012, 21:01

   Tried jacking the box as high as it would go then tightening the mount, was able to select 1st but still no second and I lost 4th which it had before.
   
   Lowering the box back down and lost 1st again anyway couldn't go over to the left at all.
   
   Seems like the gear arm is hitting the centre pipe no matter what, so exhaust needs moving which is gonna be hard, or something on the linkages has bent/broken while the mount has been hanging out for the past few months
7. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

   #7 15th April 2012, 21:03

   I think the flange on the raceland might be a little too large for comfort, it doesnt sit as close to the end of the pipe like with most manifolds.
8. rick_VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2011 Abermule, Mid Wales. Posts: 2763 Corsa Rally Car & Fiesta ST

   #8 15th April 2012, 21:18

   get the grinder out then and make it smaller.
9. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

   #9 15th April 2012, 21:38

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by rick_VTR get the grinder out then and make it smaller.

   Wish I had one, taking it to the garage tomorow coz im at work all week now and cant be bothered.
10. user_39613 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Essex Posts: 1006

    #10 15th April 2012, 21:46

    The mount is on the wrong way round.
11. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

    #11 15th April 2012, 21:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saaamon The mount is on the wrong way round.

    I wondered this too, how sure would you be?
    
    Do you mean the larger one which bolts to the box in a metal bracket?
    
    The fork could go on either way round right? This was removed too and a Baker BM group a bush pushed into it.
12. user_39613 Established Member Joined: Dec 2009 Essex Posts: 1006

    #12 15th April 2012, 22:06

    The fork mount underneath the car, take it off and flip it the other way round. Im 100% sure this is the problem, i know because i put it on the wrong way round myself.
13. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

    #13 15th April 2012, 22:13

    Do you mean unbolt the bracket holding the massive lower gearbox mount in from the gearbox, turn that the other way around and bolt it back on the box?
    
    Because when you say fork mount i picture the small bush at the very back on the chassis, but im guessing you never removed this?
    
    Also, when you did this, did you lose 1st and 2nd gear like me?
    
    Thanks Saaamon, you've been helpful so far.
14. user_18250 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Swadlincote Posts: 1185 2003 Black VTR

    #14 17th April 2012, 14:13

    Turned out the exhaust need loosening at the head and moving down slightly, the downpipe on the raceland could do with sitting a little lower.