lowering HELP!

1. blackwoodVTR L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 blackwood Posts: 33 mk2 saxo vtr

   #1 16th April 2012, 14:39

   hello, im just wondering if someone can tell me whats everything i need to lower my car correctly about 60mm as im basically a noob with all this and want to have everything and not miss much off many thanks
2. o_O Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 165

   #2 16th April 2012, 14:44

   http://www.talk-torque.com/website/?p=63
   
   There is a guide for lowering the torsion bar.
   
   the front is done by springs, some people reccomend that if you lower more than 50 you should get uprated shocks as the standard ones wont hold out very well , (although mine is dropped 50mm and I have standard shocks)! hope this helps
3. o_O Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 165

   #3 16th April 2012, 14:45

   forgot to add, I have not ran into many problems with it being on standard shocks and apex 50mm springs,
4. EthanVTS Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Liverpool Posts: 232 '01 Saxo VTR

   #4 16th April 2012, 14:57

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by o_O forgot to add, I have not ran into many problems with it being on standard shocks and apex 50mm springs,

   Sorry to hijack thread, but what is 'many problems' ?
   
   I'm planning on getting mine dropped on standard shocks soon, only temporarily until funding allows an upgrade.
   
   Cheers.
5. harry289 Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Lincolnshire Posts: 1633 Icelandic Grey Saxo VTR

   #5 16th April 2012, 17:52

   Proper job: 60mm springs, uprated dampers front and rear, torsion bar/rear beam lowered to suit
   
   Cheap way: 60mm springs and torsion bar/rear beam lowered to suit
   
   Average price for the torsion bar to be lowered properly is around £70 - £80
6. leej Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2011 leicester Posts: 162 Saxo furio

   #6 16th April 2012, 18:05

   or do it yourself in can. theres a guide on it
7. o_O Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 165

   #7 17th April 2012, 09:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by EthanVTS Sorry to hijack thread, but what is 'many problems' ? I'm planning on getting mine dropped on standard shocks soon, only temporarily until funding allows an upgrade. Cheers.

   I ment to say any

   1 user thanked this post: EthanVTS
8. KrisB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Dorking,Surrey,M25 J9 Posts: 2616 Static -80mm Peugeot 405

   #8 17th April 2012, 14:16

   If i were you i wouldnt even entertain the idea of doing the torsion bar yourself unless you've done enough of them to actually know what you're doing. The smallest thing can go wrong and cause such a big problem... Lets just say one feck up and you're without a car.
   
   Leave it to a professional, at least for the first time so it can be done properly, greased up and easy to do yourself after the initial lowering.
   
   I charge £60 for the rear and £30 to fit springs.
9. blackwoodVTR L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 blackwood Posts: 33 mk2 saxo vtr

   #9 18th April 2012, 18:25

   well i have messaged a guy on here who lives near me and everyone is talking about him and he charges £60, but ive also heard off alot of people that when you lower the torsion bar it collapses in not much time at all and the wheels start to camber on the rear, is there a way to prevent this?
10. blackwoodVTR L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 blackwood Posts: 33 mk2 saxo vtr

    #10 18th April 2012, 19:42

    and also do i need shocks? im a noob see so i dunno if shocks and dampers r the same thing or not
11. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #11 18th April 2012, 19:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackwoodVTR well i have messaged a guy on here who lives near me and everyone is talking about him and he charges £60, but ive also heard off alot of people that when you lower the torsion bar it collapses in not much time at all and the wheels start to camber on the rear, is there a way to prevent this?

    its because it gets lowered by knocking the arms off then adjusting the height. if its done that way(the way i know how to do it) you would be as well changing the bearings etc and there won't be any problems in the near future
12. blackwoodVTR L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 blackwood Posts: 33 mk2 saxo vtr

    #12 18th April 2012, 19:56

    how much are new bearings?
13. nickolley2k Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2005 merthyr tydfil United Kingdom (Wales) Posts: 273

    #13 18th April 2012, 20:10

    just private messaged you mate.
14. kennym1987 Established Member Joined: Sep 2007 Armadale, West Lothian Posts: 1230 flatty 16v sleeper and a regular vts

    #14 18th April 2012, 20:26

    around £30 a side for each kit iirc
15. blackwoodVTR L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 blackwood Posts: 33 mk2 saxo vtr

    #15 18th April 2012, 21:50

    so i need new bearings for the torsion bar, lowering springs for the front and then uprated dampers for the front and the back cause il be lowering about 50/60mm, are dapers the same as shocks then? and is there anything else i will need for a decent job
16. blackwoodVTR L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 blackwood Posts: 33 mk2 saxo vtr

    #16 19th April 2012, 16:11

    BUMP!!!
17. user_58812 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 Newbury (Berkshire) Posts: 154 Vtr conversion + Vts conversion

    #17 26th April 2012, 20:26

    Yes mate, shock absorbers are dampers.
18. link_heroz Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Loughborough Posts: 760 Black MK2 Saxo VTR 02

    #18 26th April 2012, 22:19

    I have standard shocks and i think i'm 60mm. Keeping the standard shocks just makes my ride hard and bouncy.
19. SAXOOOOOOOOOO Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Uxbridge Posts: 247 Renault 19 Mk1 Clio Mk5 fiesta zetec s Mk2 sax

    #19 26th April 2012, 22:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by link_heroz I have standard shocks and i think i'm 60mm. Keeping the standard shocks just makes my ride hard and bouncy.

    Hard and bouncy?
20. blackwoodVTR L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 blackwood Posts: 33 mk2 saxo vtr

    #20 27th April 2012, 11:59

    maybe keep standard shocks on the rear so its stiffer and can have people in the back and then new ones for the front would that work?