I highly do not recommend baker m engine mounts

  1. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #1
    So after snapping 4 standard engine mounts I decided to upgrade!

    After a bit of research (obv not enough) I went for the baker m top right engine mount,

    Firstly one of the 12mm nuts was shagged..

    Secondly the rubber buffer I spent an extra 14 quid on was drilled off centre so the bottom washer and nut was impossible to fit so I had to spend time opening out the hole... Don't get me wrong it wasn't hard but surely after spending over 100 pound u shouldn't had to do this..
    Tbh it's lucky I'm an engineer and have a wide selection of tools that mechanics wouldn't have

    However it's on now and yeah it's pretty solid but the vibration is crazy! I did expect that but jeez!

    Thought I'd post this up as it might be useful to people

    Peace out
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt
    #2
    im looking into getting these within the next month or so, read good reviews about them on the tinternet though!
    and how do they feel compared to the original mounts?
  3. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002
    #3
    Surely you should have sent the off centre part back?
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  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
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    my guess is the person had them before him send them back knackered....
  5. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #5
    My title is a bit extreme iv just realised haha, erm iv only done the top one mate and yes it does feel solid, there is no movement at all! It feels faster lol! Iv just got the ump ATM because of the amount of pissing about I had to do, the vibration ATM is quite mental all through the revs.. Hoping a couple of hundred miles should soften it up
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002
    #6
    And the dodgy bolt?
    I had no trouble with the products and fitting was probably a 1 out of 5 in terms of Haynes spanners
  7. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #7
    I haven't had my car on the road all week and cba to send back lol, it hasn't damaged it or nowt just pissed me off a bit!
  8. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dolby20 View Post
    And the dodgy bolt?
    I had no trouble with the products and fitting was probably a 1 out of 5 in terms of Haynes spanners
    Na was the nylon but mate.. Again no biggie as I had others laying about just don't expect that when u spend quite a bit of money
  9. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 kelso Posts: 762 106 gti
    #9
    the vibrations dont get softer lol trust me i had the full set of Group N mounts on my car when i bought it they soon got changed!
  10. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by vts-dave View Post
    the vibrations dont get softer lol trust me i had the full set of Group N mounts on my car when i bought it they soon got changed!
    What did you change them for mate
  11. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 kelso Posts: 762 106 gti
    #11
    for the pure fact my car is my daily car and i couldnt be fucked with the vibrations anymore
  12. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by vts-dave View Post
    for the pure fact my car is my daily car and i couldnt be fucked with the vibrations anymore
    Na I mean what did u use instead of lol
  13. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS
    #13
    So what exactly are you an engineer of?
  14. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by vts-dave View Post
    for the pure fact my car is my daily car and i couldnt be fucked with the vibrations anymore
    pansy
    i had group A pugsports on my daily for over a year
    couldnt see out my rear view mirrors for shaking but i hacked it
  15. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr_P View Post
    So what exactly are you an engineer of?
    I work for a facilities company, so pipe fitting mainly, involves welding, fabricating etc.. All I'm saying is when u spend that much for a brand new part u shoud not expect to fuck around with it, I wouldn't buy a tyre and expect to shave the tyre walls to size? Whether its baker m or kam racing at fault I'm letting people know of my experience pal
  16. Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 kelso Posts: 762 106 gti
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AlexB View Post
    pansy
    i had group A pugsports on my daily for over a year
    couldnt see out my rear view mirrors for shaking but i hacked it
    Haha call me a pansy all you want I couldn't hack it as a daily I live in a small town and the town centre is cobbled streets! So imagine a Saxo on group n billies and group n mounts on cobbled roads no thanks
  17. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTommyR View Post
    I work for a facilities company, so pipe fitting mainly, involves welding, fabricating etc.. All I'm saying is when u spend that much for a brand new part u shoud not expect to fuck around with it, I wouldn't buy a tyre and expect to shave the tyre walls to size? Whether its baker m or kam racing at fault I'm letting people know of my experience pal
    So you're not an engineer then? You're a welder/fabricator AKA metal muncher?

    I agree that a part should fit with no modification, regardless of the price paid, but I don't agree with people slapping "Engineer" in their title when it's clear they are not. Also, had you done enough research on that mount, you'll understand that they need modification to fit anyway. This is, assuming you meant the top driver's side mount. OK? PAL?
  18. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr_P View Post
    So you're not an engineer then? You're a welder/fabricator AKA metal muncher?

    I agree that a part should fit with no modification, regardless of the price paid, but I don't agree with people slapping "Engineer" in their title when it's clear they are not. Also, had you done enough research on that mount, you'll understand that they need modification to fit anyway. This is, assuming you meant the top driver's side mount. OK? PAL?
    Don't get your knickers in a twist love.. I must be an engineer it says so on my uniform and yes I did know I had to drill out the ali mount but I also had to drill out the hole in the buffer as it was off centre.
    I am not saying I'm an amazing engineer not that you would have a clue what I do or who I am so why get picky over it. Pointless.

    My point was most Saxo's are driven by young drivers with probably not many tools and should invest in a 12mm drill bit..

    But oh no I'm not an engineer so I have no idea what I'm talking about
  19. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTommyR View Post
    But oh no I'm not an engineer so I have no idea what I'm talking about


    Thank you. That's all I was asking for.

    People stating they are an "engineer," when they obviously fucking aren't.
  20. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #20
    Oh but I am gas safe registered mate, I also drive a van that says plumbing and heating engineer.. I may not make jumbo jets but I am an engineer of sorts
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  21. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTommyR View Post
    Oh but I am gas safe registered mate, I also drive a van that says plumbing and heating engineer.. I may not make jumbo jets but I am an engineer of sorts
    So you're not even a pipe fitter? You're a glorified plumber. Like I said, You sir, are NOT an engineer!

    You're a fitter. When will this world stop handing out engineer titles that every knob in the village can use!
  22. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #22
    Oh hang on a sec, I see what's going on here.. I only have 57 posts on here, that's why your being a "c u next Tuesday" or cunt.. I obv don't know shit.. Well sorry but I like to spend time driving my Saxo not talking about it.
  23. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr_P View Post
    So you're not even a pipe fitter? You're a glorified plumber. Like I said, You sir, are NOT an engineer!

    You're a fitter. When will this world stop handing out engineer titles that every knob in the village can use!
    Well yes mate stuck a 4 inch bit of pipe in yesterday for gas on a boiler in a commercial plant room... You can do more than one thing geezer
  24. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS
    #24
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTommyR View Post
    Oh hang on a sec, I see what's going on here.. I only have 57 posts on here, that's why your being a "c u next Tuesday" or cunt.. I obv don't know shit.. Well sorry but I like to spend time driving my Saxo not talking about it.
    Not at all. This has nothing to do with sax-p, post counts, the internet or large hairy cocks.

    Just wondered how an "engineer" would kick up such a fuss about modifying an engine mount that hundreds of, unqualified idiots with the wrong tools, have managed to fit without batting an eyelid.


    The "engineer" thing, is a personal thing. That title is handed out and used by people when it is obviously not deserved. And you don't seem deserved.
  25. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTommyR View Post
    Well yes mate stuck a 4 inch bit of pipe in yesterday for gas on a boiler in a commercial plant room... You can do more than one thing geezer
    Like I said, You're a glorified plumber.
  26. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2007 Kent Posts: 4175 RB25'd s14a + 2008 MWB Transit
    #26
    I'm a gas engineer as well
  27. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr_P View Post
    Not at all. This has nothing to do with sax-p, post counts, the internet or large hairy cocks.

    Just wondered how an "engineer" would kick up such a fuss about modifying an engine mount that hundreds of, unqualified idiots with the wrong tools, have managed to fit without batting an eyelid.


    The "engineer" thing, is a personal thing. That title is handed out and used by people when it is obviously not deserved. And you don't seem deserved.
    Hmm read my first post. I didn't kick up a fuss about modifying the engine mount. I clearly said it wasn't hard! But u shoulnt expect to do this to a brand new part for fuck sake... And before u say it again i know i had to drill the ali part..Why is that so hard to understand. It pissed me off a bit because I left some of my tools at work that I didn't think I would need!
  28. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #28
    Im a breast implant engineer.

    The mount will give more vibrations and should be expected. So you cant not reccomend them for that as thats like just how they are, regardless of the make being Baker BM.

    If I had a tyre that needed shaving to fit as you said then I would send it back and get a replacement. But as im a boobie engineer id make my own silicone mold so the tyre fits better.
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  29. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS
    #29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTommyR View Post
    Hmm read my first post. I didn't kick up a fuss about modifying the engine mount. I clearly said it wasn't hard! But u shoulnt expect to do this to a brand new part for fuck sake... And before u say it again i know i had to drill the ali part..Why is that so hard to understand. It pissed me off a bit because I left some of my tools at work that I didn't think I would need!
    You said you were lucky to be an engineer and have tools that mortals would not have.

    But mere mortals have fitted them without kicking up such a fuss. So perhaps a drill isn't much of a specialist tool.

    I also agreed that such a part should require absolutely no modification, no matter what it cost.
  30. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr_P View Post
    You said you were lucky to be an engineer and have tools that mortals would not have.

    But mere mortals have fitted them without kicking up such a fuss. So perhaps a drill isn't much of a specialist tool.

    I also agreed that such a part should require absolutely no modification, no matter what it cost.
    Lol are you for real.. It's just the way I talk mate. It's my opinion take it or leave it. It's not wrong or right. Who the fuck cares.. I have said my title was a bit extreme in a recent post, but hey I was pissed off with life. U sound like u seriously need to get laid or summit. Nun night x
  31. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTommyR View Post
    Lol are you for real.. It's just the way I talk mate. It's my opinion take it or leave it. It's not wrong or right. Who the fuck cares.. I have said my title was a bit extreme in a recent post, but hey I was pissed off with life. U sound like u seriously need to get laid or summit. Nun night x
    You're getting pissed off with life over an engine mount? and I'm the one that needs to get laid?
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  32. L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Ripley, Derbyshire Posts: 49 1.4 Furio Wicked red + Black citroen c2 gt
    #32
    I thought fitter's were classed as engineers? the are at my work anyways.
  33. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #33
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr_P View Post
    You're getting pissed off with life over an engine mount? and I'm the one that needs to get laid?
    No i wasn't getting pissed off with the engine mount. I said life for example the cost of petrol and cunts that live of benefits etc.. Nowt to do with Saxos mate
  34. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS
    #34
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tom_richo View Post
    I thought fitter's were classed as engineers? the are at my work anyways.
    This is what I'm talking about. A fitter is not, in anyway, an engineer.
  35. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #35
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Mr_P View Post
    This is what I'm talking about. A fitter is not, in anyway, an engineer.
    Okay brilliant, getting bored now what makes an engineer then
  36. L-plater Joined: Aug 2007 Ripley, Derbyshire Posts: 49 1.4 Furio Wicked red + Black citroen c2 gt
    #36
    why are they not engineers though? the blokes i work with work to engineering drawings, work to tolerances have apprenterships in engineering? just like me but im a CNC turner.
  37. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS
    #37
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tom_richo View Post
    why are they not engineers though? the blokes i work with work to engineering drawings, work to tolerances have apprenterships in engineering? just like me but im a CNC turner.
    I have an apprenticeship in engineering. I did my level 4 at the same time. I actually design and do the engineering drawings, but I am not, and do not count myself, as an engineer.

    To be an engineer, you had to have a degree in the subject you worked, plus the additional practical skills and the experience in the job. If not a degree, then the equivalent level 5 qualification, who often make for better engineers because they have done it the practical way.

    Obviously, the title of Engineer, isn't thought of like that by a lot of people, and we are calling fitters with apprenticeships, engineers.
  38. Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Derbyshire Posts: 770
    #38
    MR p, you come across as a complete twat, what on earths your problem, right mardy...

    Just reading your coments in this thread made me feel like, yeah saxp, click X past few days iv seen coments like yours from others and pointless arguments wich makes the site look so so poor to new members like myself..

    As for the engine mounts, no you shouldnt of had to adjust them yourself. apart from the part you are told about on the top engine mount. how ever you sound like me, sod sending them back ill make them work lol!

    And how does mr p know what array of tools you have.


    Rant over
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  39. L-plater Joined: Jan 2010 stevenage Posts: 64 Saxo furio 16v :)
    #39
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by W343NNA View Post
    MR p, you come across as a complete twat, what on earths your problem, right mardy...

    Just reading your coments in this thread made me feel like, yeah saxp, click X past few days iv seen coments like yours from others and pointless arguments wich makes the site look so so poor to new members like myself..

    As for the engine mounts, no you shouldnt of had to adjust them yourself. apart from the part you are told about on the top engine mount. how ever you sound like me, sod sending them back ill make them work lol!

    And how does mr p know what array of tools you have.


    Rant over
    That's the point I'm trying to make whether I'm an engineer or not I don't expect someone I don't know to tell what or who I am
    And yeah sod sending it back il make that bitch fit!
  40. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS
    #40
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by W343NNA View Post
    MR p, you come across as a complete twat, what on earths your problem, right mardy...

    Just reading your coments in this thread made me feel like, yeah saxp, click X past few days iv seen coments like yours from others and pointless arguments wich makes the site look so so poor to new members like myself..

    As for the engine mounts, no you shouldnt of had to adjust them yourself. apart from the part you are told about on the top engine mount. how ever you sound like me, sod sending them back ill make them work lol!

    And how does mr p know what array of tools you have.


    Rant over
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VTommyR View Post
    That's the point I'm trying to make whether I'm an engineer or not I don't expect someone I don't know to tell what or who I am
    And yeah sod sending it back il make that bitch fit!


    W343NNA, That's your opinion, at the end of the day, he wasn't asking for help, he was slating something that only he could have fixed. (apparently)

    I have given plenty of help and advice on this and other sites. It's a personal pet hate of mine that people class themselves as engineers when they are not. That goes towards my bosses too. The one's who pay me! Half of them should not be classed as engineers!

    Had he been asking for advice, I would have tried to help. If I couldn't have helped, I would have left the thread.
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  41. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #41
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by W343NNA View Post
    MR p, you come across as a complete twat, what on earths your problem, right mardy...

    Just reading your coments in this thread made me feel like, yeah saxp, click X past few days iv seen coments like yours from others and pointless arguments wich makes the site look so so poor to new members like myself..

    As for the engine mounts, no you shouldnt of had to adjust them yourself. apart from the part you are told about on the top engine mount. how ever you sound like me, sod sending them back ill make them work lol!

    And how does mr p know what array of tools you have.


    Rant over
    you arnt new though..
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  42. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Newport Posts: 207 Furio 1.4, mk2 VTR
    #42
    Mr_P I am just going to point out you're an utter prick Get off your high horse fella!
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  43. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by lhessey View Post
    Mr_P I am just going to point out you're an utter prick Get off your high horse fella!

    And I would like to point out that lhessey, is a stupid name.
  44. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts
    #44
    i would of liked to see some pictures of the ill fitting parts myself...
  45. Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Derbyshire Posts: 278 Peugeot 106 Quiksilver
    #45
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sexy_gt View Post
    i ould of liked to see some pictures of the ill fitting parts myself...
    x2

    In all fairness I believe if the part was that I'll fitting, on top of the fact that you said the car in question wasn't currently on the road.. Then surely you would have just sent it back?
    After all its what people expect.
    I'm sure the people at bakerbm would have gladly sorted it out without even hesitating to be honest.

    Also I know if you buy the mount directly from bakerbm themselves they will tap the hole in question out to 12mm free of charge :-)

    But yeah, if it was that bad it should have been sent back as it also would help bbm with their quality control aspect of their business!
  46. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
    #46
    what a shit thread
    who the fuck cares if hes an engineer or not
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  47. Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2011 Bingley, West Yorkshire Posts: 190 GTI-6, Icelandic VTS
    #47
    en·gi·neer (nj-nîr)
    n.
    1. One who is trained or professionally engaged in a branch of engineering.

    I am a Refrigeration Engineer by trade, so that makes me an engineer in refrigeration.