cooking brakes!

  1. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Tadcaster Posts: 331 08 turbo panda 02 vtr
    #1
    I've recently fitted tarox g88 discs and yellowstuff pads to the front of my vtr.
    Having had standard discs and ferrodo premier pads before which I never had a problem with.

    Same style of driving, but after 1.5k since fitted, im cooking the brakes in 10 miles of a quick blast.

    Could a poor bleed be the cause? Because i was thinking the yellowstuff should come into their own with a bit of heat!
  2. Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)
    #2
    I take it you followed the guidelines for breaking in the pads...

    what are your symptoms? long brake pedal travel? lack of stopping?
  3. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Tadcaster Posts: 331 08 turbo panda 02 vtr
    #3
    I bedded the pads in on the standard discs then fitted the tarox discs, expecting approximately 1000 miles to bed the discs in. Both with gentle driving.

    There is a strong smell of cooking pads in the car and the pedal is going hard and the brakes are practically non-existent.

    I did change the rear axle about 200 miles back and bled the rear brakes but didnt do the fronts, so am hoping that that is the cause!

    cheers
  4. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2011 surrey Posts: 397 saxo vtr mk1 mitsi evo 4 project
    #4
    saxos work on a closed brake system so you will need to bleed in a sequence if i remember rightly you need to do front passangers, rear drivers, front drivers then rear passangers
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thecorporatemachine View Post
    I bedded the pads in on the standard discs then fitted the tarox discs, expecting approximately 1000 miles to bed the discs in. Both with gentle driving.

    There is a strong smell of cooking pads in the car and the pedal is going hard and the brakes are practically non-existent.

    I did change the rear axle about 200 miles back and bled the rear brakes but didnt do the fronts, so am hoping that that is the cause!

    cheers
    my gti has started doing this too, but mine aren't new or low on wear :/

    be good to find an answer
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by thecorporatemachine View Post
    I bedded the pads in on the standard discs then fitted the tarox discs, expecting approximately 1000 miles to bed the discs in. Both with gentle driving.

    There is a strong smell of cooking pads in the car and the pedal is going hard and the brakes are practically non-existent.

    I did change the rear axle about 200 miles back and bled the rear brakes but didnt do the fronts, so am hoping that that is the cause!

    cheers
    Why didn`t you bed them in on the Tarox discs?(just seems logical)
  7. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Tadcaster Posts: 331 08 turbo panda 02 vtr
    #7
    right, so hopefully a proper bleed of all 4 will sort it out, or at least make them better!

    Stevo, I bed the pads in first thinking that if I had new discs and new pads there would be relatively no brakes for that first few hundred miles.
  8. Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 London, England Posts: 734 Saxo VTS, Audi A6 Avant Quattro.
    #8
    You'll have plenty of braking if you throw on new discs and pads at the same time...

    Its not really the best idea to bed new pads in on old discs either! Same way as old pads and new disc's isn't a great idea! Which is effectively what you've done there.
  9. Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Tadcaster Posts: 331 08 turbo panda 02 vtr
    #9
    ahhh dear, I was thinking new pads + new discs at once would be a bad idea.
    so that may have reduced the effectiveness of the pads?

    Thanks for the help guys, wont be making the same mistakes again!