I have an odd rubbery chirping noise - Video

1. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

   #1 22nd May 2012, 10:43

   
   Righty then, so I've got a weird rubbery chirping noise from my car.
   
   The basics are:
   

   • it's not there when you start driving, it happens after say 2 miles or so
   • it's not related to engine revs, it stays constant with speed regardless engine rpm
   • I thought brakes, but braking makes no impact on the noise at all
   • I can't physically see anything rubbing or signs of anything contacting under the car
   • it's not really any louder outside the car / with the window open
   • it's annoying
   • best way I can think to describe it is as a rubbery chirping noise
   • the alternator belt is correctly tensioned
   • car drives fine, no eml or loss of power etc

   
   Any ideas of what I can start to look at next? I've checked to see if what was anything stupid like the heater fans or anything, that's a negative.
   
   
   HELPPPP!
2. MuZiZZle Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2011 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 7779 Phase 2 VTS , E61 M5

   #2 22nd May 2012, 10:46

   rubber chicken?
3. jasonmayall Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Birmingham Posts: 2148 Rover BRM, Rover 800 Coupe, Mk6 golf.

   #3 22nd May 2012, 10:48

   Could be one of the bushes wearing out?
   Have a look at the wishbones and ARB for wear... you'll see if they're cracked and generally look shot.
4. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

   #4 22nd May 2012, 10:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by MuZiZZle rubber chicken?

   negative
5. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

   #5 22nd May 2012, 10:50

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by jasonmayall Could be one of the bushes wearing out? Have a look at the wishbones and ARB for wear... you'll see if they're cracked and generally look shot.

   I guess, it's sounds sort of rotational to me if you know what I mean?
6. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

   #6 22nd May 2012, 10:55

   cant really hear anything from the video but i know on my mk1 xr2 i replaced the clutch and release bearing with some cheap crap and i launched it, from then after it chirped away and it was the release bearing.
   it had knackered itself.
   my VTR did this as well. it was sounding really weird.
7. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

   #7 22nd May 2012, 11:05

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by m4tt274 cant really hear anything from the video but i know on my mk1 xr2 i replaced the clutch and release bearing with some cheap crap and i launched it, from then after it chirped away and it was the release bearing. it had knackered itself. my VTR did this as well. it was sounding really weird.

   launched it you say?
   
   errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
8. Chez99 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Pelton, Co.Durham Posts: 487 Saxo 52' Plate - Green Flatty.

   #8 22nd May 2012, 11:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by MuZiZZle rubber chicken?

   Niiiiice!
9. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

   #9 23rd May 2012, 09:43

   yeah launched it, as in 6,000 rpm dump clutch.
   
   lesson. dont go to York raceway with a cheap clutch
10. jasonmayall Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Birmingham Posts: 2148 Rover BRM, Rover 800 Coupe, Mk6 golf.

    #10 23rd May 2012, 10:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by m4tt274 yeah launched it, as in 6,000 rpm dump clutch. lesson. dont go to York raceway with a cheap clutch

    Lesson- Thats not how you make a fast start lol.
    you'll just burn out your tyres, clutch and it wont do anything else any good either. Peak torque is usually around 2.5-3k rpm lol.
11. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

    #11 23rd May 2012, 10:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonmayall Lesson- Thats not how you make a fast start lol. you'll just burn out your tyres, clutch and it wont do anything else any good either. Peak torque is usually around 2.5-3k rpm lol.

    True that, although peak torque on the VTS is something ridiculous like 5,200rpm lolz.
    
    Either way, 6k sounds steep, admittedly my tyres are basically constructed of plastic and go by the premium name of WangSport DitchMong XL's, I struggle to get any sort of quick launch over 4,500rpm, it's wheelspin central.
    
    Also you may break your clutch release bearing!
12. jasonmayall Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Birmingham Posts: 2148 Rover BRM, Rover 800 Coupe, Mk6 golf.

    #12 23rd May 2012, 10:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by D4MJT True that, although peak torque on the VTS is something ridiculous like 5,200rpm lolz. Either way, 6k sounds steep, admittedly my tyres are basically constructed of plastic and go by the premium name of WangSport DitchMong XL's, I struggle to get any sort of quick launch over 4,500rpm, it's wheelspin central. Also you may break your clutch release bearing!

    Haha, i've never driven a VTS, only know what a cammed VTR feels like...
    But i couldnt imagine it being too good for an old mk1 anyway.. surprised it even revs to 6k, must be close to the redline lol.
13. jasonmayall Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Birmingham Posts: 2148 Rover BRM, Rover 800 Coupe, Mk6 golf.

    #13 23rd May 2012, 10:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by D4MJT True that, although peak torque on the VTS is something ridiculous like 5,200rpm lolz. Either way, 6k sounds steep, admittedly my tyres are basically constructed of plastic and go by the premium name of WangSport DitchMong XL's, I struggle to get any sort of quick launch over 4,500rpm, it's wheelspin central. Also you may break your clutch release bearing!

    These tyres sound awsome... hope you coloured the writing in white so everyone knows you have WangSports
14. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

    #14 23rd May 2012, 10:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonmayall These tyres sound awsome... hope you coloured the writing in white so everyone knows you have WangSports

    absolutely, they should stand out a treat when the car's on it's roof in a sand trap!
15. jasonmayall Established Member Joined: Mar 2011 Birmingham Posts: 2148 Rover BRM, Rover 800 Coupe, Mk6 golf.

    #15 23rd May 2012, 10:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by D4MJT absolutely, they should stand out a treat when the car's on it's roof in a sand trap!

    Lol! At least it wouldnt take them long to come to the source of the problem, Either the nut behind the wheel, or the awsome WangSport DitchMong XL rubbers .
    
    Back to the OP anyway- sorry for the thread steal lol. I'd just jack the car up and check the bushes first, doesnt cost anything to check and if they're worn you will be able to see. Cost pennies for new ones aswell... fitting them is another story though!
    If they're all OK, i'd possibly put it down to the clutch release bearing... Dont suppose you've been doing any 'launching' recently? If so, thats probly the cause lol.
16. user_41869 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2010 stoke on trent Posts: 741 saxo vtr

    #16 23rd May 2012, 10:46

    It sounds like your driveshaft shaft as gone. Mine sounded like this check your cv joint gators ain't split.
17. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

    #17 23rd May 2012, 10:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonmayall Lol! At least it wouldnt take them long to come to the source of the problem, Either the nut behind the wheel, or the awsome WangSport DitchMong XL rubbers . Back to the OP anyway- sorry for the thread steal lol. I'd just jack the car up and check the bushes first, doesnt cost anything to check and if they're worn you will be able to see. Cost pennies for new ones aswell... fitting them is another story though! If they're all OK, i'd possibly put it down to the clutch release bearing... Dont suppose you've been doing any 'launching' recently? If so, thats probly the cause lol.

    
    
    I'll check the bushes out and report back!
18. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

    #18 23rd May 2012, 10:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by anna2009 It sounds like your driveshaft shaft as gone. Mine sounded like this check your cv joint gators ain't split.

    That's interesting, as I reckon they're on the way out anyway as they sound a bit too clicky to me, and I'd put them on my list to change.
    
    Thanks for that, I'll put 2 shafts on it before I pull the box out lol.
19. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

    #19 24th May 2012, 11:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jasonmayall Lesson- Thats not how you make a fast start lol. you'll just burn out your tyres, clutch and it wont do anything else any good either. Peak torque is usually around 2.5-3k rpm lol.

    rear wheel drive this is the case, with the FD if i launch it at much over 6k is wont move it just makes a huge 11 and lots of noise but wont move.
    most drag guys agree when you say with front wheel drive just dump it, with a XR2 weighing 650kg on R888s with little more than 100bhp on a 6k launch it spins as the revs drop for about 2/3 seconds then grips at about 4K, bogs down a tiny bit then revs to about 7500rpm before i will change. it then chirps as i go into seconds.
    
    if i launch it from 2.5K rpm i wont go faster.
20. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

    #20 24th May 2012, 11:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by m4tt274 rear wheel drive this is the case, with the FD if i launch it at much over 6k is wont move it just makes a huge 11 and lots of noise but wont move. most drag guys agree when you say with front wheel drive just dump it, with a XR2 weighing 650kg on R888s with little more than 100bhp on a 6k launch it spins as the revs drop for about 2/3 seconds then grips at about 4K, bogs down a tiny bit then revs to about 7500rpm before i will change. it then chirps as i go into seconds. if i launch it from 2.5K rpm i wont go faster.

    Shazam! That's a light XR2! Mental!
    
    Any info on it dude?
21. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

    #21 24th May 2012, 11:07

    its a complete bare shell in my dads workshop awaiting some seam welding at the moment.
    its a standard 1.1L mk1 fiesta shell, totally stripped out with holes drilled all over it and perspex rear, side and door windows, two cobra classics and an OMP with a 1640xflow on twin 40s with a lairy cam in it running through the 1.1 4 cogger.
    i have a top speed of about 100
    it should be built this summer so il post some pictures when its down with a brief progress thread.
22. D4MJT Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Morpeth Posts: 2539 BMW 116d Regional Toner Sales Edition

    #22 24th May 2012, 11:12

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    Originally Posted by m4tt274 its a complete bare shell in my dads workshop awaiting some seam welding at the moment. its a standard 1.1L mk1 fiesta shell, totally stripped out with holes drilled all over it and perspex rear, side and door windows, two cobra classics and an OMP with a 1640xflow on twin 40s with a lairy cam in it running through the 1.1 4 cogger. i have a top speed of about 100 it should be built this summer so il post some pictures when its down with a brief progress thread.

    That sounds sweet!