vtr-vts conversion help :/

1. chopsey-cheese L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 ashford kent Posts: 53 2002 saxo vtr current car. mk4 golf 2.0 gti, mk

   #1 24th May 2012, 16:27

   Hey I've just bought a w reg vts engine (phase 2) I've got engine + loom ecu ans all other bits to just straight swap, the vts is a single plug ecu and mine is a 3 plug ecu (2002 vtr) do I need to change interior loom or can I just plug the vts engine loom onto mine on the round plug under the bonnet ? Any more advice I need ? Cheers x
2. jware92 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Colwyn Bay/Southend Posts: 608 Mk2 vts VXR engined astra

   #2 24th May 2012, 16:53

   Get ecu loom and sensors off a 3 plug vts
3. chopsey-cheese L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 ashford kent Posts: 53 2002 saxo vtr current car. mk4 golf 2.0 gti, mk

   #3 24th May 2012, 17:03

   Can I not use the single plug ?
4. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #4 24th May 2012, 17:13

   Some of the loom connector's are different on 3plug / single plug.
   
   I fitted a 16v that was originally converted to run on single plug - and changed it to run on 3-plug loom / ECU.
   
   Just a few sensor's ie TPS and water temp sensor's needed swapping to 3 plug ones, so the loom connected to them.
   
   I used the sensor's off my 8v - However the coilpack connector's are different. So I Changed the coilpack too.
5. chopsey-cheese L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 ashford kent Posts: 53 2002 saxo vtr current car. mk4 golf 2.0 gti, mk

   #5 24th May 2012, 17:55

   Still slightly confused by this so can I use the vts single plugh ecu and loom on my vrt that is a 3 plug ecu if I change sensors ?
6. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #6 24th May 2012, 18:57

   Get rid of the single plug stuff for 3 plug - and run it on that, you will know the engine loom and interior loom match then.
7. Charlie2413 Newbie Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 21

   #7 25th May 2012, 00:06

   dont do it, converting a mk2 vtr with a mk1 vts was a Biiiiig mistake, better off just sticking to same year or same mk and you should only have to have the ecu unlocked
8. chopsey-cheese L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 ashford kent Posts: 53 2002 saxo vtr current car. mk4 golf 2.0 gti, mk

   #8 25th May 2012, 02:17

   Can I use my mk2 vtr ecu with a vts engine if I get a 3 plug loom ? I heard ecu's are the same on vtr's and vts's ??
9. chopsey-cheese L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 ashford kent Posts: 53 2002 saxo vtr current car. mk4 golf 2.0 gti, mk

   #9 25th May 2012, 03:18

   Also the engine is out of a 2000 x reg vts (first phase 2)
10. chopsey-cheese L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 ashford kent Posts: 53 2002 saxo vtr current car. mk4 golf 2.0 gti, mk

    #10 25th May 2012, 15:04

    W reg either !
11. henshaw Newbie Joined: Apr 2012 castleford Posts: 11 Citreon Saxo 1.1 mk2 (soon to be vtr)

    #11 25th May 2012, 15:09

    this is what ive been told in the past, 2000 reg is crossover loom year if your single point loom fits into the connector behind the passanger headlight, it will fit if not u may have to get it spliced, by the sound of it yours is a 2002 with the smaller connector, your vts connector may be bigger. try it if it doesnt fit you cant use it but yes its easier to use 3 plug loom and ecu. Your vts will need a fuel pump return plumbing in and you can use your 3 plug ecu but it is better to get vts ecu.
12. chopsey-cheese L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 ashford kent Posts: 53 2002 saxo vtr current car. mk4 golf 2.0 gti, mk

    #12 25th May 2012, 17:13

    I suppose all I can do is try lol, w reg is the change over it has the same interior loom as mine just with a single point ecu.
13. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #13 25th May 2012, 20:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Charlie2413 dont do it, converting a mk2 vtr with a mk1 vts was a Biiiiig mistake, better off just sticking to same year or same mk and you should only have to have the ecu unlocked

    Why?
    
    I have a single plug engine/loom/ecu in my 3 plug car there is no problem at all. The loom just needs splicing.
14. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #14 25th May 2012, 20:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tom5190 Why? I have a single plug engine/loom/ecu in my 3 plug car there is no problem at all. The loom just needs splicing.

    This... Same as my loom
    
    Spliced now is perfect
    
15. chopsey-cheese L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 ashford kent Posts: 53 2002 saxo vtr current car. mk4 golf 2.0 gti, mk

    #15 25th May 2012, 20:59

    Is this a stupid question? If I splice the loom to fit it on my plug how will I know what wire goes where ? Anyone got a diagram or anything that could help ? Amd are the vts gearboxs the same as a vtr box ?
16. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #16 25th May 2012, 21:01

    How much wiring experience do you have?
17. chopsey-cheese L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 ashford kent Posts: 53 2002 saxo vtr current car. mk4 golf 2.0 gti, mk

    #17 26th May 2012, 02:47

    Put it this way if I know what wire goes where I can do it.
18. chopsey-cheese L-plater Joined: Jan 2012 ashford kent Posts: 53 2002 saxo vtr current car. mk4 golf 2.0 gti, mk

    #18 26th May 2012, 16:34

    Wireing loom plugs straight in so will it all work no prob ?
19. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #19 26th May 2012, 21:12

    take a picture of the 2 plugs on the pin side and throw it on here ill tell you.