Shocking VTR brakes?

  1. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 London Posts: 343 Silver VTR
    #1
    Is it me or are the breaks on the mk2 vtr pretty shocking, slam your foot on the brakes and it still feels like your only touching the peddle gently, anyway, main question, what is classed as a good/sensible upgrade for road use - what do I need? pads disks and calipers?
  2. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 BS34 Posts: 1214 Yellow 16v
    #2
    266 pads and calipers.

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  3. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 London Posts: 343 Silver VTR
    #3
    So you dont need new disks?

    EDIT: Whats the best make to go for?
  4. Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Edinburgh Posts: 2369
    #4
    I didn't think my VTR brakes were that bad. Maybe you have an air lock or needing replacement fluid/pads ?

    You can go for better pads or if you want to push the boat out upgrade to 266 calipers. You'd need new discs, of course, as your current discs are 247mm.
  5. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 London Posts: 343 Silver VTR
    #5
    So basically I'm looking at discs, calipers and pads, for a DECENT brake setup I've seen people use brakes off a 306 gti? - Anyway how much should i be looking at roughly for the discs pads and calipers
  6. Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Lincolnshire Posts: 1633 Icelandic Grey Saxo VTR
    #6
    I use brembo OEM discs and mintex m1144 pads and they bite nicely! Maybe your car is due a brake fluid flush?
  7. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 London Posts: 343 Silver VTR
    #7
    maybe, maybe haha, so any 266mm breaks and pads will be fine?
  8. Established Member Joined: Oct 2009 Lincolnshire Posts: 1633 Icelandic Grey Saxo VTR
    #8
    Get a good set of pads, then a decent disc, and a good dot 4 or 5.1 fluid and flush/bleed the system well.
  9. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2010 London Posts: 343 Silver VTR
    #9
    will do, couple of other things on the to-do list - I'll get there eventually!
  10. Established Member Joined: Mar 2007 Edinburgh Posts: 2369
    #10
    I use MinteX discs and M1144 pads ( £110 just for the pads ) which is over kill on road use but it mainly gets used for track.

    You could spend somewhere between £100-£150 for new front discs, calipers, pads and fluid. But, as mentioned above, you might just have an issue. Give it a good service or atleast a check over.
  11. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
    #11
    update your pads discs and fluid

    my vtr brakes have mintex discs and pads all round feel fine, perfectly adequate for the the 90 horses in the stable
  12. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2006 Maidstone Posts: 8210 Golf TDI
    #12
    Depends what you are used to.

    I owned a brand new car a few years back and the brakes were much sharper than the Saxo. My old GTI had 266mm brakes and they were still worse than the new cars I had before.

    You can get some better pads and then replace the fluid + bleed but I wouldn't expect Wow type results as the brakes are not amazing in these cars anyway.
  13. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #13
    i wouldnt bother with bigger stuff unless your driving it hard

    good pads decent fluid and new discs
    i run ap fluid
    carbon larraine rc5+
    30 quid cheapo discs

    anyone with 266 even 283 with normal spec pads will get out braked i rekon
    at mallory park i was outbraking a lot of cars into the hairpin (seans corner) i would stand by this setup untill going 4 pots tbh

    266 and 283 just add a load of hub weight
  14. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo
    #14
    as said its actually the cheaper option usually to fit bigger brakes i paid £70 for my gti6 calipers and maxtorq discs with hardly any miles on them and paid around £20ish for oe spec pads, however they are bloody heavy!

    my house mate fitted 266mm 206 gti brakes and we noticed his piston was the same size as mine and his are pretty good got the whole set for about £40 (calipers, discs and pads) these are lighter than gti6 brakes and offer very similar (if not the same) amount of braking force

    then what many people do when they go on trackdays is go all out on expensive pads, braided lines and decent fluid to the oem brakes, this is usually more expensive than the above two options, but people like it as it keep the weight down and can perfrom better over bigger brakes

    if your really pushing the boat out then you fit aftermarket brakes which combine lightness with good braking power and size however very expensive! the 406 brembos are a good alternative as they use the same size discs as the gti6 set up but have very light calipers but the down side is that the discs are heavy unless you buy expensive floating discs
  15. Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 hemel Hempstead Posts: 413 l200 worrior saxo vtr stock hatch Seat leon 20v
    #15
    I run omp dot 6 fluid. brembo standard discs and omp carbon pads. and it stops lovely can out brake a lot of the faster cars too.
    omp pads are about 2/3 of the price of carbone lorrain. i have found another company who do car bon brakes witch i will try when i use up all the sets of omp i got.
    they are called compbrake.

    manic
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD
    #16
    flush the fluid out, get some new discs and pads and adjust the bar thats on the bulkhead if need be. mine are pretty nerve wracking from cold but thats because the pads and discs are getting a bit tired now. once warmed up (few braking spells) they stop pretty quick!