Tuning saxo

1. saxo_appeal Regular Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 253

   #1 5th August 2006, 20:27

   Hi guys, ok how much do you think it would cost to tune up a saxo vtr 2001 plate ?? is it worth it? how BHP will it gain?
   
   iv lowered the car by 40mm, got a K&N induction kit and a powerflow 4" exhaust system.
   
   cheers
   what are these FSE power boost valves like?
2. beastgtir Established Member Joined: Apr 2006 birmingham Posts: 2178 Soon to be another Honda!

   #2 5th August 2006, 20:33

   FSE valves are a waste of time. they over-fuel your car.
3. Robb Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Feb 2006 140 Grime St. Posts: 15163 Panamera

   #3 5th August 2006, 20:54

   With a full system and air filter you're looking at a maximum gain of 15bhp...
   
   
   (Or so I've been told)
4. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

   #4 5th August 2006, 21:06

   you forgot to mention with a enclosed induction you will get gains but with these open to air ones your more likely to lose bhp as they drag in warm air from the engine, go for a 4-2-1 manifold enclosed induction and decat then maybe a cam and ecu remap this should sort things out for you mate looking at around 15-25bhp increase's maybe more depending on setup. this will probably set you back £1000-1500
5. saxo_appeal Regular Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 253

   #5 5th August 2006, 21:11

   hhmmm remap is coslty isnt it, where can i get a cheap green enclosed induction kit?
6. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

   #6 5th August 2006, 21:14

   well get rid of the mods on your car and start again
   
   enclosed induction kit bmc/ green will do nicely
   piper or magnex exhaust or if your rich btb
   manifold 4-1 from gmc
   
   
   to be honest i dont see the point going much further then that you will see more bhp per £ getting a vts conversion
7. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

   #7 5th August 2006, 21:17

   this guy speaks sense worth plodding over it you could get a conversion done for less than these mods would cost you
8. saxo_appeal Regular Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 253

   #8 5th August 2006, 21:19

   cool thanks
9. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

   #9 5th August 2006, 21:22

   there was a guy in the wanted thread had a vts engine wanted £400 for it someone requested one and he mentioned he had this one ill try and dig out the thread for you
10. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #10 5th August 2006, 21:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stiffler69 this guy speaks sense worth plodding over it you could get a conversion done for less than these mods would cost you

    
    if your on about me your the first person to say i talk sense :shock:
11. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #11 5th August 2006, 21:58

    it sounded like top advice to me so i would say thats sense lol
12. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #12 5th August 2006, 22:00

    well it is top advice i have the above mods on y car and thats as far as id go with a vtr but each to there own
13. Yates Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Pompey/Darlo Posts: 31546 MK1 - 1.1 Animal

    #13 5th August 2006, 22:18

    You can tell the difference with the few mods, i could in Pauls car
    
    ive never bothered with engine mods as, like stated to get to 120bhp it would cost alot, and i would be better selling the vtr and gettin a vts - which i am planning on doing
14. saxo_appeal Regular Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 253

    #14 5th August 2006, 22:39

    Yes but my vtr is on hire purchase
    
    what if i get a green enclosed induction kit? will that help?
15. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #15 5th August 2006, 22:43

    well if its on hire purchase surely you cant do anything to it
16. saxo_appeal Regular Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 253

    #16 5th August 2006, 23:02

    : Eh of course you can do stuff to it, at the end of the full payment its yours.
17. DevilDamo Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13761

    #17 5th August 2006, 23:05

    At the end of the day... you pay for what you get.
    
    However, I do know a way of making around 100bhp by spending as much as £10. Interested?
18. saxo_appeal Regular Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 253

    #18 5th August 2006, 23:10

    errrrrrr is this an Ebay job ???
19. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #19 5th August 2006, 23:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo_appeal : Eh of course you can do stuff to it, at the end of the full payment its yours.

    
    well whats wrong with the vts conversion then
    
    damo il have 1 of them
20. saxo_appeal Regular Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 253

    #20 5th August 2006, 23:13

    well he is offline now .....god he is going to keep us in suspense till he comes back Noooooooooo !!!!!!
21. DevilDamo Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13761

    #21 5th August 2006, 23:45

    Haha! I think "some" people know what modification I'm talking about. Haha!
22. user_257 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2003 Kent Posts: 3994

    #22 6th August 2006, 02:43

    I have a 01 VTR with a Green, GMC Manifold, and Full Magnex system. I got 113bhp on a rr last wednesday.
    
    Buying a VTS is your best option, then VTS conversion imo. Though selling the latter maybe harder. I say they're your best options as they're both better starting points for future mods. What i mean by that is if you cam a VTR engine to get 120-130bhp, it'l cost you more than to get a VTS engine conversion and there is not much more you can do to an 98bhp VTR without spending a few thousand (i.e. s/c, t/c etc). Whereas if you go for a VTS engine as a starting point, you'd have the option to cam that and get around 160bhp. Not that camming a VTS is cheap though lol.
    
    I have a cam and modified head waiting to be fitted to mine but i cant justify the £800 id have to spend to get it fitted and get a remap atm.
23. saxo_appeal Regular Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 253

    #23 6th August 2006, 06:48

    Eh no devil damo ????
24. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #24 6th August 2006, 10:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo_appeal Eh no devil damo ????

    damo is talking about some ebay shite
25. saxo_appeal Regular Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 253

    #25 6th August 2006, 16:47

    cmon damo, cmon damo, cmon damo
26. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #26 6th August 2006, 18:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo_appeal cmon damo, cmon damo, cmon damo

    
    you not see my post
27. Ry_B Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2006 Solihull Posts: 798 RX8 231

    #27 6th August 2006, 18:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by G_Ride With a full system and air filter you're looking at a maximum gain of 15bhp... (Or so I've been told)

    Don't know much about Saxo's but very much doubt that, with a cone type filter you will probably loose/just about break even on power and the full system may get you 5bhp I'd say
28. hesslevtr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2004 Hull (England) Posts: 18709 1.6 vtr

    #28 6th August 2006, 18:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ry_B Don't know much about Saxo's but very much doubt that, with a cone type filter you will probably loose/just about break even on power and the full system may get you 5bhp I'd say

    
    another person with sense
29. saxo_appeal Regular Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 253

    #29 6th August 2006, 18:51

    where can you get cheap closed green induction kits?
30. saxo_appeal Regular Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 253

    #30 6th August 2006, 19:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hesslevtr you not see my post

    i seen your post but "some ebay shite" meens nothing to me lol
31. stiffler69 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 North East Posts: 5289

    #31 6th August 2006, 20:07

    resistor chip maybe
32. saxo_appeal Regular Poster Joined: May 2005 Posts: 253

    #32 6th August 2006, 20:21

    Is that a chip that doesnt want to go in the deep fat oil ??? hehe