possibly skipped cambelt help needed

1. saxo_mike Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Heald Green, Stockport Posts: 1721 black/yellow vtr

   #1 17th June 2012, 19:53

   basically
   
   i went to change the belt/waterpump on my 1.4 lupo and struggled to lock the crank in order to get the nut off so after looking on the lupo forum people have said they had just locked their camshafts and then turned it off
   
   i had a go at this method and the whole nut and pulley turned and made a not so nice noise with it
   
   after this i was only able to turn over the engine around 1/5 or a rotation and it would just stop
   
   not going to start the engine for the fear of it being totally off and destroying my head
   
   any suggestions as to what the next step would be
   
   (posting here as the lupo forum is useless)
2. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #2 17th June 2012, 19:55

   Needs timing up properly, obviously.
3. saxo_mike Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Heald Green, Stockport Posts: 1721 black/yellow vtr

   #3 17th June 2012, 19:57

   yes i'm aware of that but what would you suggest the next step is from here as i clearly can't do it myself and starting the engine could possibly end in tears
4. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #4 17th June 2012, 19:58

   You will have to find a mate who know's what they're doing..
   
   Or get a mobile mechanic out
5. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #5 17th June 2012, 20:01

   You'll have to take the belt off, time it up and then check it rotates over. Chances are the valves are touching pistons now
6. saxo_mike Established Member Joined: Mar 2008 Heald Green, Stockport Posts: 1721 black/yellow vtr

   #6 17th June 2012, 20:01

   its booked in the garage pretty much round the corner for the cam belt change for tuesday
   
   if i tow it there and just explain whats happened how much much work would be needed to correct it ontop of a normal water pump/cambelt would normally take
7. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #7 17th June 2012, 21:25

   It depends because when you explain the situation, it may need stripping down do check for valve damage.
8. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #8 17th June 2012, 22:04

   Its doubtful turning the engine by hand would bend the valves, unless you spun it over or moving the pulley with an air line or similar?
9. Scottyboy93 Newbie Joined: Mar 2012 Ashford middlesex Posts: 5 1997 ford fiesta - 1997 citreon saxo

   #9 17th June 2012, 22:22

   is this the engine with a extra belt at the top driving the cams ?
10. user_31412 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653

    #10 18th June 2012, 00:05

    I doubt it would cost you any more by towing it to the garage, they need to time it up anyway.
    
    Why were you pissing about with the crank nut when its due in a garage for a belt change?
    
    Are you sure its not moving and your not just feeling compression - ie have you tried turning it over without plugs in?
    
    If it has skipped a tooth, you could obviously take the timing belt off and sort it yourself, but I wouldn't bother if your having it all replaced anyway.