Stretching tyres...

18th June 2012, 21:16

Getting some custom springs from GAZ to lower my saxo more at the front end, i have 8J alloys on and am using 195/45/15 what other sizes could i use to give it a really good stretch to allow my car to go lower??

Cheers

18th June 2012, 21:22

165/50? 185/45 may be enough though, theres also 175/50 but I think 165/50 are more available.

Edit: check out tyrestretch.com

19th June 2012, 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoshFurioBrookes

165/50? 185/45 may be enough though, theres also 175/50 but I think 165/50 are more available.

Edit: check out tyrestretch.com

BIG HELP!!!! Cheers mate

---
I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?2e1qw1

19th June 2012, 13:53

Why do you want to fuck around with the only things that keep you on the road?

19th June 2012, 14:24

Why not.....

---
I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?44vfmr

19th June 2012, 14:35

mine are 8j all round and I changing to 185/45/15's. gonna modify arch liners too to get the front down just that little bit extra.

19th June 2012, 14:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furio-Gaz-Saxo

Why not.....

---
I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?44vfmr

The clue was in the question...

'the only things that keep you on the road'

Also it looks stupid.

19th June 2012, 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper

The clue was in the question...

'the only things that keep you on the road'

Also it looks stupid.

Looking in stupid is just your opinion..not gonna be a track car or anything so don't see how I am going to "come off the road" if I just drive normally

---
I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?zgzody

19th June 2012, 15:30

185/45 won't be any dangerous stretch. Can't say the same for 165/50 though.

19th June 2012, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furio-Gaz-Saxo

Looking in stupid is just your opinion..not gonna be a track car or anything so don't see how I am going to "come off the road" if I just drive normally

---
I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?zgzody

I hope they unseat themselves when you're driving. That may teach you.

19th June 2012, 19:33

Well that's just typical you always been a cunt...

19th June 2012, 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viper

Why do you want to fuck around with the only things that keep you on the road?

Glad someone said it.

Stretch is seriously playing with death. And it looks shit

19th June 2012, 20:17

Also was never made to be done on standard road cars.

You crash and there is a high chance your insurance company will tell you to F'off as well as a police investigation, like one that happened to a guy i know of. 3 points for each tyre and a fine also an unroadworthy car which needed a new MOT, once he picked it up from the police compound.

19th June 2012, 20:19

Im sure hes aware of the risk mate.

19th June 2012, 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prickle

Im sure hes aware of the risk mate.

Just my opinion on a forum, mate

(Dont come crying when it goes tits up is all)

19th June 2012, 21:56

But I don't want some stupid stretch like stated maybe 185s

---
I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?lbds3u

20th June 2012, 00:13

this website makes me laugh, anything slightly illegal or unsafe and you get the same gimps crying about it

you might aswell wrap yourself in bubble wrap mate for every time you go out incase of the small chance of something bad happening to you.

20th June 2012, 00:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSOfreak

this website makes me laugh, anything slightly illegal or unsafe and you get the same gimps crying about it

you might aswell wrap yourself in bubble wrap mate for every time you go out incase of the small chance of something bad happening to you.

Internet police...

20th June 2012, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furio-Gaz-Saxo

Well that's just typical you always been a cunt...

Love you

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSOfreak

this website makes me laugh, anything slightly illegal or unsafe and you get the same gimps crying about it

It's funny how you get the same 'gimps' that start spouting the same bullshit when someone speaks their mind about something illegal and dangerous

20th June 2012, 00:33

it looks cool on the right car, HOWEVER i can see the other argument of it being dangerous at the same time.

would be interesting to see what the insurance would say incase of a crash however.

20th June 2012, 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSOfreak

this website makes me laugh, anything slightly illegal or unsafe and you get the same gimps crying about it

you might aswell wrap yourself in bubble wrap mate for every time you go out incase of the small chance of something bad happening to you.

[/QUOTE]

not sure you run them?...but would crease up if you ran a corner too quick and popped the bead..slid onto the curb and killed someone

be a bit shit for the one you killed, but be worth it for ppl to look back at the thread and laugh at you

ive seen stretch tyres pop on a roundabout twice..if anything id be too scared for the shear embarrassment factor..i bet the ppl whos car it was got a shock

20th June 2012, 00:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSOfreak

this website makes me laugh, anything slightly illegal or unsafe and you get the same gimps crying about it

you might aswell wrap yourself in bubble wrap mate for every time you go out incase of the small chance of something bad happening to you.

'illegal' 'unsafe'. Lol.

Quote:

not sure you run them?...but would crease up if you ran a corner too quick and popped the bead..slid onto the curb and killed someone

be a bit shit for the one you killed, but be worth it for ppl to look back at the thread and laugh at you

ive seen stretch tyres pop on a roundabout twice..if anything id be too scared for the shear embarrassment factor..i bet the ppl whos car it was got a shock

Nutshell there, would be even shitter if the person happened to be a kid? IMO Stretching looks stupid, and if it's illegal, god help you if you crash and there's even a 0.000001% someone could quibble your illegal, hung drawn and quartered mate lol.

20th June 2012, 01:07

tiny bit isnt bad..but still looks pathetic and fast corner will curb your rims

my dads van has a little stretch as he took the alloys 3 weeks old off a car

its shit and its a tiny bit..ive curbed the fronts to fuck and i wouldnt even say ive pushed it hard

20th June 2012, 08:26

basically tyre strech is dangerous, yes we all know it is, if someone wants to choose to do it then its up to them, there gonna do it weather we help them or not so might as well be abit helpful but making sure they know of the implications without it turning into a total shit fight... my mate had stretch on the back of his 200sx drifter and he didnt pop the tyres of the rims, however i have seen it happen a few times with a big stretch, there is a website called tyrestretch.com/.co.uk and you can search your rim width and the tyre size you wanna put on there and see pics of the stretch... its entirely up to you but i wouldnt touch it with a barge pole... i like my insurance how it is atm and i also like my head and arms attatched to my body

kinda like my legs in one peice as well...

20th June 2012, 08:44

Its very simple
your insurance is definately invalid if you run anything on the car that is not std fitment and you have not told the insurance about it
the fact that specific size tyres are type approved for certain rim widths make it totally illegal to use such small section tyres on these rims and and again because its illegal your insurance is invalid .

I,m not even going to get into the danger factor of doing such things ,but if you should have an "event" be assured and someone is hurt you will be treated very severly by the courts .
I have not looked into it ,but does someone not make super wide tyres for this purpose ,even if they are silly money?
I can find in my goodyear book 255/45/15 or even a 345/35/15 tyre listed
no i don,t know how much they are or if anyone else makes such sizes

20th June 2012, 08:58

Yh there are 355+ about somewhere

Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

20th June 2012, 10:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

not sure you run them?...but would crease up if you ran a corner too quick and popped the bead..slid onto the curb and killed someone

be a bit shit for the one you killed, but be worth it for ppl to look back at the thread and laugh at you

ive seen stretch tyres pop on a roundabout twice..if anything id be too scared for the shear embarrassment factor..i bet the ppl whos car it was got a shock

but you can say that about anything?

why lower your car so much when it could unknowingly rub your brake lines and you might kill someone?
why not replace your topmounts every now and again because they might fail and you could loose steering?
why put coilovers on incase they unseat whilst driving and you kill someone?

Everything has a degree of risk but with a subtle stretch theres no point crying about it. Pretty much everyone on ed38/stanceworks/cleaneduk have stretched tyres. Ive certainly never seen anyone tyres pop off with a small stretch.

20th June 2012, 11:00

Like I said a small stretch doesn't really do much other then run risk of your rims being curbed

But some ppl take the piss, it doesn't really bother tbh, just when ppl post up about it being not unsafe and making it out as if it's cool to do it

20th June 2012, 11:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSOfreak

but you can say that about anything?

why lower your car so much when it could unknowingly rub your brake lines and you might kill someone?
why not replace your topmounts every now and again because they might fail and you could loose steering?
why put coilovers on incase they unseat whilst driving and you kill someone?

Everything has a degree of risk but with a subtle stretch theres no point crying about it. Pretty much everyone on ed38/stanceworks/cleaneduk have stretched tyres. Ive certainly never seen anyone tyres pop off with a small stretch.

That's what I mean, I am only after a small stretch...that's why 185 proberbly perfect for it

---
I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?ybeded

20th June 2012, 12:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Furio-Gaz-Saxo

That's what I mean, I am only after a small stretch...that's why 185 proberbly perfect for it

---
I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?ybeded

Back to the original reason for this thread then, the only tyres I ever seem to find online in 185/45/15 are Nankang NSII's A set of four are roughly between £180-200 delivered.

20th June 2012, 15:49

Cheers josh

---
I am here: http://tapatalk.com/map.php?jbivsr

20th June 2012, 17:14

Lotsa good knowlege in this thread, can someone link me the definitive laws on stretch please to confirm their views just to save people relying upon hearsay

20th June 2012, 17:43

What the problem is, is the fact you have to be a bawss to run stretch and unluckily half this forum are faggots.

20th June 2012, 17:45

The legality of it stands that the tyres are being fitted otherwise In accordance with the manufacturers safe working conditions

Which also falls under the laws that tyres have to be the correct fitment for a rim/car

Basically you can argue the toss with a copper all you like, if they took you to court they would get info from the vehicle manufacturer on what the corect size of tyres and rims for the vehicle are

The after market company on what type of car any particular rim size should be on/not on,

And the manufacturer of the the tyres to what size tyre to To rim should be fitted

They then proceed to throw the book at you for wasting court time when you're clearly running unsafe tyres, and possibley give you 2.5k fine and 3 points per illegal tyre, and add some court fees to the final bill

But hey if you're are bawss

20th June 2012, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiniGibbo

What the problem is, is the fact you have to be a bawss to run stretch and unluckily half this forum are faggots.

They look fuking stupid

20th June 2012, 17:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

The legality if it stands that the tyres are being fitted otherwise I accordance with the manufacturers safe working conditions

Which also falls under the laws that tyres have to be the correct fitment for a rim/car

Basically you can argue the toss with a copper all you like, if they took you to court they would get info from the vehicle manufacturer on what the corect size of tyres and rims for the vehicle are

The after market company on what type of car any particular rim size should be on/not on,

And the manufacturer of the the tyres to what size tyre to To rim should be fitted

They then proceed to throw the book at you for wasting court time when your clearly running unsafe tyres, and possibley give you 2.5k fine and 3 points per illegal tyre, and add some court fees to the final bill

But hey if you're a bawss.

Efa...

20th June 2012, 17:48

I'll edit it for you gibbo

20th June 2012, 17:50

I'll be fitting 195's to my new 8j's

Like a bawss.

20th June 2012, 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiniGibbo

What the problem is, is the fact you have to be a bawss to run stretch and unluckily half this forum are faggots.

I run stretch, which half do i sit in?

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

The legality if it stands that the tyres are being fitted otherwise I accordance with the manufacturers safe working conditions

Which also falls under the laws that tyres have to be the correct fitment for a rim/car

Basically you can argue the toss with a copper all you like, if they took you to court they would get info from the vehicle manufacturer on what the corect size of tyres and rims for the vehicle are

The after market company on what type of car any particular rim size should be on/not on,

And the manufacturer of the the tyres to what size tyre to To rim should be fitted

They then proceed to throw the book at you for wasting court time when you're clearly running unsafe tyres, and possibley give you 2.5k fine and 3 points per illegal tyre, and add some court fees to the final bill

But hey if it looks cool

Thats the prob, to a point it is down to police discretion... A lad recently got pulled, accused of stretching a 17" tyre on an 18" rim and wasn't allowed to move his car till it was towed to a garage. Unfortunately some officers don't have the understanding other do.

Essentially they will make you get re motd so if tester sees no issue your legal agaim, but down the cost of an mot.

20th June 2012, 17:52

Running stretch

Because bawss.

20th June 2012, 17:55

Most definatley youll be at the coppers discretion

Always the same, but won't be a long time before its fitted into traffic copper training

And if your one of the folks that gets pulled by a copper that does know what he's talking about.. You stand to lose your license

My mates got the penalty code for having bald tyres (think its blanket code for all illegal/unroadworthy tyres)

He can't get insured and it was only one bald tyre, but it's something insurers don't want to touch

Still doesn't change the fact it looks gay either lol

20th June 2012, 18:03

Stretch looks fine and is safe, excessive stretch is not. A lot of stretch is within manufacturers guidelines and each make is different whej i looked into it before.

21st June 2012, 08:28

looking at my goodyear tyre fitment book rim size for a 195x45 x15 = 6" to 7.5"

185x55 x15 =5" to 6.5"
so anything larger than that specified is illegal -
this is FACT not forum opinion

21st June 2012, 08:37

And at those sizes they appear stretched, when I had 195/45 15 uniroyals on some 7j wheels before they gave a slight stretch look wheras kumhos didn't.