F**king car.

1. Chez99 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Pelton, Co.Durham Posts: 487 Saxo 52' Plate - Green Flatty.

   #1 20th June 2012, 09:35

   Hello All,
   
   My car just died on me yesterday, driving along everything fine, revs dropped and it jus died, so i pulled up at the side of the road, tried to re-start it was turning over but not starting, not even trying. No smell of petrol when starting.......so got my dad to tow me home, tried bumping it no luck at all, so got home took the coil pack out, was shagged so bought a brand new one repalced, with new plugs, nothing no different when trying to tick over, i put £20 of fuel in the night before, but bought another £10 worth and put it in just incase, nothing. I can hear the pump priming so it may not be that, check battery connections, sensors, fuses etc nothing........Had a fiitter look at it, he think it may be a fried ECU :/...What are the costs im looking at for a new one?? or anything to look at??
2. jones91 Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Bridgnorth (Shropshire) Posts: 2001 Jdm Dc2 Integra

   #2 20th June 2012, 09:43

   There's a big red button on the top right hand side of your engine, make sure that's facing upright and then press the button down, then try starting it again
3. Chez99 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Pelton, Co.Durham Posts: 487 Saxo 52' Plate - Green Flatty.

   #3 20th June 2012, 09:46

   engine cut off switch?? we had tried that nothing came about after pressing it.
4. jones91 Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Bridgnorth (Shropshire) Posts: 2001 Jdm Dc2 Integra

   #4 20th June 2012, 09:48

   Check all the earths on the chassis and the gearbox too, there should be 2 on the chassis and one on the gearbox
5. Chez99 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Pelton, Co.Durham Posts: 487 Saxo 52' Plate - Green Flatty.

   #5 20th June 2012, 09:50

   leading from battery?? followed them and checked they are still connected dont look shagged but how do i tell if they are fucked?
6. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

   #6 20th June 2012, 09:59

   spray some wd40 on the earth point and wire brush them to clean them upp
7. Chez99 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Pelton, Co.Durham Posts: 487 Saxo 52' Plate - Green Flatty.

   #7 20th June 2012, 10:02

   will give it a shot.
8. jones91 Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Bridgnorth (Shropshire) Posts: 2001 Jdm Dc2 Integra

   #8 20th June 2012, 10:10

   Aslong as the earths aren't snagged anywhere and you are getting a good metal on metal connection with the earths, there shouldn't be anything wrong with them. Definately no water in the ecu or wiring loom?
9. deks36 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2008 Herne Bay. Kent Posts: 3881 Peugeot 307, Nissan Juke, 206 Grand tourisme

   #9 20th June 2012, 11:24

   might also be worth checking the crack sensor its where the engine and gearbox join a little way down the side has a small black connector if this isnt producing a good clean contact it will prevent it starting
10. Chez99 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Pelton, Co.Durham Posts: 487 Saxo 52' Plate - Green Flatty.

    #10 20th June 2012, 11:33

    we repalced that with new one yesterday, cleaned the first one up, didnt do anything, got a new one, cleaned the area up and still nothing with regards to that sensor.
11. Chez99 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Pelton, Co.Durham Posts: 487 Saxo 52' Plate - Green Flatty.

    #11 20th June 2012, 14:43

    anyone suggest anything? :/
12. DAMSK11 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 Cambridgeshire, England Posts: 2180 Saxo 1.1, Fiesta Zetec S

    #12 20th June 2012, 14:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chez99 anyone suggest anything? :/

    Scrap it.
13. Chez99 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Pelton, Co.Durham Posts: 487 Saxo 52' Plate - Green Flatty.

    #13 20th June 2012, 14:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DAMSK11 Scrap it.

    ^ looks like im going to have too.
14. user_53433 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2011 Gloucester Posts: 119 1.6 VTS MK1 1997 L3

    #14 21st June 2012, 01:37

    Fuel injector relay under the ECU plate?
    Also, does the engine light stay on or go out after a few seconds?
15. Chez99 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Pelton, Co.Durham Posts: 487 Saxo 52' Plate - Green Flatty.

    #15 21st June 2012, 08:50

    when i turn the ignition, all the lights stay on but i cant get it to turn over to see if will go out?...
16. mcjacko1987 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Rochdale Posts: 1896 mk2 saxo 1.4 furio in possi blue

    #16 21st June 2012, 10:56

    can you hear the fuel pump prime in the car when you turn on ignition?
    
    edit: ignore that. forgot you already put that
17. mcjacko1987 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Rochdale Posts: 1896 mk2 saxo 1.4 furio in possi blue

    #17 21st June 2012, 10:58

    by the looks of it your best bet is to get a replacement used unlocked ecu
18. Chez99 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Pelton, Co.Durham Posts: 487 Saxo 52' Plate - Green Flatty.

    #18 21st June 2012, 13:15

    any rough costs of these: im just thinking if its so much is the car worth it and jsut sell it for scrap. spent £120 on parts and labour so far just to have it not to start.
19. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

    #19 21st June 2012, 13:38

    If a engine won't start.. then check the basics..
    
    1. Got spark? If no - then clean earths / check coilpack / crank sensor.
    
    2. Got fuel? - pop fuel line off the rail and prime the pump. If it's getting to the rail - it's still possible that it's not getting fired by the injector's.
    
    (I had weeks of headache's trying to work out why I had fuel at rail but injector's wasn't spraying it through.. Turned out to be a loose injector. Simply refitted properly and it's been 100% since.. So worth a try.)
    
    Don't give up so soon.. it will be a simple problem.
    
    

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20. Chez99 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Pelton, Co.Durham Posts: 487 Saxo 52' Plate - Green Flatty.

    #20 21st June 2012, 14:42

    Its not getting spark nor fuel now by the sound of things. cleaned the earths, new coil pack, new plugs replaced crank sensor with another...yesterday the pump was priming nothing at all now. I've got an auto electriction going to look at it on sunday as the mobile engineer who came out did everything as above and couldnt find the issue, we'll see after sunday and see what will happen to it I.E Scrap or not.
21. mcjacko1987 Established Member Joined: Feb 2011 Rochdale Posts: 1896 mk2 saxo 1.4 furio in possi blue

    #21 21st June 2012, 20:37

    if lucky you can get a used unlocked ecu for £20 - £40. post an add up on the wanted section on here. i got one for a tenner and another with a full loom for £40. just make sure you remove your immobiliser before you fit the unlocked ecu (if you get one) or your immobiliser will lock it and that wont work then.

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22. Chez99 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Pelton, Co.Durham Posts: 487 Saxo 52' Plate - Green Flatty.

    #22 26th June 2012, 11:59

    Righht, its sorted now - it was the fuel pump and some injectors...they sorted it for £200 - thats with labour and parts with diganosis which i think is a good cost, but im still not holding any hope with the car, and constantly just waiting for somthing else to go wrong with it.