Airbags Again

1. Chappers200 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Leicester Posts: 194 Punto 55s (Deceased) Citroen Saxo 1.1i expose

   #1 20th June 2012, 10:24

   Now i know this has been brought up manymanymanymany times before but im looking for some clarification. My airbag warning light is constantly on as soon as i turn the car on and i dont know why.
   
   My problem is ive heard that a constant light means an airbag problem not the pretensioners, is this bull crap?
   
   If so would people just suggest fiddling with the cables and then failing that put a resistor between the two wires for the pretensioner?
   
   if its the airbag what the hell is the first step towards fixing it?
2. blacksaxodevil Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2011 surrey Posts: 397 saxo vtr mk1 mitsi evo 4 project

   #2 20th June 2012, 11:02

   hi fella, right first off and easiest, open bonnet and undo both the battery terminals, leave the car for ten minutes like this as to allow the airbag electrical circuit to lose power, then undo the lower steering column cover and find the orange wire that should be connected to the back of steering wheel follow the wire down and there is a brown connector, undo this plug. if you have an aftermarket wheel without airbag you need to fit a resistor in the female plug of this connector to give the right voltage to the airbag ecu. if you have a normal steering wheel with airbag then just clean terminals and plug back together.
   
   second step is to find the orange wiring underneath each seat and locate the wiring plug on this wire either side. best option for this is to cut the plugs off and fit a resistor between the wires coming up from the carpet not the seat side. solder a resistor in place and then tape up with electrical tape this will also give the pretensioner ecu the correct voltage but will disable the pretensioners.

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3. Chappers200 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Leicester Posts: 194 Punto 55s (Deceased) Citroen Saxo 1.1i expose

   #3 20th June 2012, 11:25

   and what resistance do i need then?
4. user_47498 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2010 Wallasey Posts: 437 Twincharged MK5 Golf Mk1 VTR 106 Blueturd

   #4 20th June 2012, 11:33

   Just take the airbag light out, job done no worries.
5. Chappers200 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Leicester Posts: 194 Punto 55s (Deceased) Citroen Saxo 1.1i expose

   #5 20th June 2012, 11:36

   and then fail an MOT with the new warning light ruling? no thanks
   
   rules state if it has one it must flash on startup and not stay on for an mot
6. user_34323 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 ringwood Posts: 6305 suzuki swift 1.2 sz3

   #6 20th June 2012, 12:10

   Remove all airbags then take out the ecu.
7. Chappers200 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Leicester Posts: 194 Punto 55s (Deceased) Citroen Saxo 1.1i expose

   #7 20th June 2012, 12:18

   people are so helpful these days. that was sarcasm btw ... cheers to the guy who actually gave some good help

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8. user_34323 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 ringwood Posts: 6305 suzuki swift 1.2 sz3

   #8 20th June 2012, 12:26

   Well the problem can either be the pretensioners, the wiring, the brown plug under the seat. Or the airbag ecu itself. So it may come to you have to remove everything. I dontm see a thing wrong with anyone's comments on here to be honest.
9. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

   #9 20th June 2012, 13:02

   I believe a 3 ohm resistor does the trick. Might be 2 ohm though. Cheap as chips anyway! But I can have a quick look now mate!
10. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

    #10 20th June 2012, 13:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 Remove your upper & lower steering column shrouds.Then you`ll find an orange cable that plugs into your airbag contact ring,the dashboard side will be a female connector.Simply take a 2ohms resistor(cut the legs down to the right length)then insert 1 leg into each side of the connector,then put a piece of insulation tape over the top to hold it in place.

    From another thread but you get the idea
11. user_47498 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2010 Wallasey Posts: 437 Twincharged MK5 Golf Mk1 VTR 106 Blueturd

    #11 20th June 2012, 13:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chappers200 and then fail an MOT with the new warning light ruling? no thanks rules state if it has one it must flash on startup and not stay on for an mot

    never failed my mot.
    
    EDIT: Didnt realise that there was a new MOT rule about airbag lights, I meant it in a genuin way of fixing it, but i guess no that wont work now.
12. Chappers200 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Leicester Posts: 194 Punto 55s (Deceased) Citroen Saxo 1.1i expose

    #12 20th June 2012, 14:41

    so if i went into maplins would i just ask for three 2 ohm resistors? sorry dont have a clue about resistors and tried googling it which didnt help at all lol
13. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

    #13 21st June 2012, 13:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Chappers200 so if i went into maplins would i just ask for three 2 ohm resistors? sorry dont have a clue about resistors and tried googling it which didnt help at all lol

    Yes mate,
    Min Res 2.2
    Order Code: M2R2
    
    http://www.maplin.co.uk/1andohm-to-8...sistors-341668

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14. Chappers200 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Leicester Posts: 194 Punto 55s (Deceased) Citroen Saxo 1.1i expose

    #14 21st June 2012, 13:18

    nice one, cheers for the help ... its now sorted with both the pretensioners done --- THREAD CLOSED ---
15. user_55763 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2011 Milton Keynes Posts: 869 2000 Citroen Saxo 1.0L

    #15 21st June 2012, 13:46

    No worries, gotta to mine soon
16. Jay_T87 Established Member Joined: Apr 2010 Somewhere better than you! Posts: 1359 '98 Mauritius VTR

    #16 21st June 2012, 14:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike_OCZ never failed my mot. EDIT: Didnt realise that there was a new MOT rule about airbag lights, I meant it in a genuin way of fixing it, but i guess no that wont work now.

    Not always, mine just went down as an advisory..
17. user_42271 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 632

    #17 21st June 2012, 14:24

    +1 Advisory about the airbag light, cable was unplugged under the seat