206 gti brake conversion.

1. AaronSmith L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Rushden Posts: 43 2001 Saxo Vtr.

   #1 20th June 2012, 18:48

   Hello was wondering if i needed to change the master cylinder if i wanted to change my brakes to 266?
2. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #2 20th June 2012, 19:02

   Not realy necessary but alitof people do change it
   
   Just depends how much pedal travel you like to have
3. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #3 20th June 2012, 19:04

   i have 283mm brakes and i kept the oem master cylidner on both my vts and gti, i personally dont see anything wrong with the existing cylidner i dont feel as if there is much more travel than i used to have with the old vtr brakes
   
   my housemate has 206 gti brakes (has the same size piston as a gti 6 caliper iirc) and he wants a bigger cylinder all down to preference

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4. AaronSmith L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Rushden Posts: 43 2001 Saxo Vtr.

   #4 20th June 2012, 19:15

   Cheers, im going to change them and then see how it feels.
5. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #5 20th June 2012, 19:28

   best thing to do really, make sure its all bled proeprly, last thing you want is to bleed it wrong and it feels shit and think its down to the master cylinder, mine felt not great at all when i first fitted them seemed to have laods of travel and few days later it seemed so much better, probably just the pads bedding in
6. saladdodger Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 669

   #6 20th June 2012, 19:40

   Do the 206 calpiers/discs/pads fit straight on VTR/VTS then.
7. AaronSmith L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Rushden Posts: 43 2001 Saxo Vtr.

   #7 20th June 2012, 19:52

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saladdodger Do the 206 calpiers/discs/pads fit straight on VTR/VTS then.

   yeah straight swap.
8. AaronSmith L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Rushden Posts: 43 2001 Saxo Vtr.

   #8 20th June 2012, 19:53

   Aslong as they feel better than vtr brakes then ill be happy
9. saladdodger Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 669

   #9 20th June 2012, 23:23

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by AaronSmith yeah straight swap.

   GTi ones the same yeah????
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by AaronSmith Aslong as they feel better than vtr brakes then ill be happy

   VTR ones do seem to travel a fair bit
10. Ryanoo Established Member Joined: Nov 2011 Northamptonshire Posts: 1084 MK2 VTR.

    #10 21st June 2012, 02:50

    VTR brakes are wank lol. I wouldn't mind an upgrade, but my car is stock so not much point..
11. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

    #11 21st June 2012, 02:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saladdodger Do the 206 calpiers/discs/pads fit straight on VTR/VTS then.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AaronSmith yeah straight swap.

    i think there is some modding needed iirc ask swampy or jeff
12. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #12 21st June 2012, 12:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AaronSmith yeah straight swap.

    not so straight
    
    ou normaly have to grind a bit off either the rear of the caliper or the strut
    
    it is also advised to fit longer custom brake lines as the standerd items have being known to pull tight on extremes of lock and suspension travel.
    this can and has led to premature failure of the lines with out any warnings
    
    also if the above is detected it is an mot failure
13. AaronSmith L-plater Joined: Jul 2010 Rushden Posts: 43 2001 Saxo Vtr.

    #13 21st June 2012, 13:09

    My bad lol.
14. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #14 21st June 2012, 13:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AaronSmith My bad lol.

    your not all worng mate, not all calipers need grinding, my housemates 206 ones didnt need grinding, my gt6 ones did though, i hought it was jsut gti6 calipers that needed grinding hence why i didnt say anything as the OP wants 206 brakes
    
    im running oem length hoses and just had an mot no problems at all, everyone i spoke to that has gti6 brakes all run standard length hoses with no issues
15. saladdodger Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 669

    #15 21st June 2012, 17:25

    cheers, the thought of GTi6 brakes appeals to me, i like to stop
16. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #16 21st June 2012, 17:28

    206 gti brakes will stop you just as well as GTI6 brakes, apart from the 266mm 206 gti brakes wont be adding a huge anti-beneficiary amount of unsprung mass.
17. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #17 21st June 2012, 18:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saladdodger cheers, the thought of GTi6 brakes appeals to me, i like to stop

    Gti6 are 283mm
    
    As said 206gti the early one use 266 and are just as capable as the gti6 items
    Just use good disks and pads
18. saladdodger Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 Posts: 669

    #18 21st June 2012, 20:50

    OK Cool cheers