FPR, with pics

1. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

   #1 14th July 2012, 16:48

   right peeps, i've just been out to the saxo and making sure everything is ready for when my loom arrives, but i've noticed that on one side of the fuel rail it has a hole, i've done some research into this and i think a fuel pressure gauge is meant to be here? is this true as i dont know where my fuel return line goes onto?
2. tarzan Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Lurgan Posts: 767 2001 black saxo furio 2001 black saxo vts

   #2 14th July 2012, 16:55

   if its a big hole then thats where the fuel pressure regulator is meant to be. its in the fuel rail on mk1's and at the fuel pump in mk2s
3. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

   #3 14th July 2012, 17:02

   the engine is from a 2001 single plug mk2 furio and its in a mk1 1.1 ?
   
   tbh mate i dont know whats meant to be on the end but i've read that its normally a fpr!
   
   will get a pic up to show you were i mean!
4. tarzan Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Lurgan Posts: 767 2001 black saxo furio 2001 black saxo vts

   #4 14th July 2012, 17:43

   yeah was going to ask for a photo. i have a 2001 furio so i will go out and double check whats missing
5. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

   #5 14th July 2012, 17:43

   here ya go: (please ignore the coilpack was trying to use old loom but couldn't so it will be off soon)
   
   
   
6. tarzan Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Lurgan Posts: 767 2001 black saxo furio 2001 black saxo vts

   #6 14th July 2012, 17:50

   i remember now its meant to be a bleed nipple on the end of it
7. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

   #7 14th July 2012, 17:52

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by tarzan i remember now its meant to be a bleed nipple on the end of it

   bleed nipple? i know one of my fuel lines goes onto there but have no idea what connects the two? got a link to what i need by any chance?
8. tarzan Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Lurgan Posts: 767 2001 black saxo furio 2001 black saxo vts

   #8 14th July 2012, 17:55

   
   
   
   sorry for the crap quality. safer just getting a new fuel rail
9. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

   #9 14th July 2012, 18:02

   would i really have to get a new one? do you have a fuel line attached to that?
10. tarzan Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2010 Lurgan Posts: 767 2001 black saxo furio 2001 black saxo vts

    #10 14th July 2012, 18:12

    no it just ends. fuel return is only on the vts iirc if you turn the car over fuel might come out the hole at high pressure so put a bottle over the whole with a lot of rags etc to see if has already been blocked up
11. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #11 14th July 2012, 18:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tarzan no it just ends. fuel return is only on the vts iirc if you turn the car over fuel might come out the hole at high pressure so put a bottle over the whole with a lot of rags etc to see if has already been blocked up

    oh right, i have 2 fuel lines in mine and i know where one goes but not where the other goes! so just block the end off?
12. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #12 14th July 2012, 19:19

    any one else know anyway to sort this out?
13. scottie_436 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 449

    #13 14th July 2012, 19:39

    You need a remote fuel pressure regulator
    
    All you have there is a feed from the pump and a return back to tank.
    
    See this item
    
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/98-03-CITR...item3f179cd549
    
    Thats what you need...the furio would of had this fitted above the tank, but you could fit it under the bonnet if you wish
    
    Without a fpr the engine will not run, as you wont make correct fuel pressure
14. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #14 14th July 2012, 19:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scottie_436 You need a remote fuel pressure regulator All you have there is a feed from the pump and a return back to tank. See this item http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/98-03-CITR...item3f179cd549 Thats what you need...the furio would of had this fitted above the tank, but you could fit it under the bonnet if you wish Without a fpr the engine will not run, as you wont make any fuel pressure

    so would that fit on the end and then i connect the return pipe to that?
15. scottie_436 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 449

    #15 14th July 2012, 19:56

    Nah...
    
    You would need a tee piece n the supply line... The fpr would fit between the tee and the return line.
    
    As said before, you have something mssing from that fuel rail. If looking for a new rail... Then look for one off a 1.6 8v fitted to 106 1.6 xsi or 106 s2 rallye. They have a fpr fitted n them so your return line would attach straight to it

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16. user_57064 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car

    #16 14th July 2012, 20:46

    Vtr 1.6 8v fuel rail
    
    
    
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17. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #17 14th July 2012, 20:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by greyjasper51 Vtr 1.6 8v fuel rail Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

    wtf is going on with mine!!!! the clip you got on the fuel rail doesn't look like the pipes ive got!!!
18. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #18 14th July 2012, 21:04

    heres a few more pics.
    
    
    
    
    and i thought these were my fuel lines?
    
    
    and is is the pipe i was saying about on the fone going into the shell by the steering rack!
    
19. user_57064 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car

    #19 14th July 2012, 21:50

    
    
    
    
    Down back of motor
    
    
    
    Heater matrix feed and return
    
    
    
    2 cable tied pipes are the feed and return for the heater matrix, one on right goes down to rhs block, thermostat i think...
    
    
    
    
    
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20. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #20 14th July 2012, 22:00

    what would you say i should do from the pic's ive posted mate?
21. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #21 14th July 2012, 22:00

    the pipe gose to the bottom of the thermostat housing should be quite obvious?
    
    the only saxos ive seen witha fuel return are the vts's and very early vtr's (so im guiessing all early 8v's had them)
    
    what reg is yours? mine is an s reg and doesnt haev a fuel return so too 'new'
22. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #22 14th July 2012, 22:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffchiz the pipe gose to the bottom of the thermostat housing should be quite obvious? the only saxos ive seen witha fuel return are the vts's and very early vtr's (so im guiessing all early 8v's had them) what reg is yours?

    tbh mate i'm still very new to this so im taking my time find out what goes where!
    
    my car is a 1999 V reg!
    
    im just so confused why i got so many pipes and where they go!
23. rich112 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2009 Kent Posts: 4207 Mango cammed furio vts

    #23 15th July 2012, 14:09

    The engine came from mk2 furio which as said had fpr on the fuel pump, no fuel return line on these models.
24. user_52335 Banned Joined: May 2011 north london Posts: 1618 mk1 flat arch

    #24 15th July 2012, 15:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rich112 The engine came from mk2 furio which as said had fpr on the fuel pump, no fuel return line on these models.

    so i guess ill get a new fuel rail and injectors then block the return pipe and see what happens! i got to get new fuel lines anyways as they dont fit!