running like crap

1. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #1 20th July 2012, 10:15

   last few weeks car aint had a run or been moved alot, so when i go to start it, it starts fine but then seems to struggle engine management light flashes and it wont rev properly sounds like a bag of poop and struggles to drive. now i can turn it on and off wont alter it much but if i leave it and come back to it later its fine and no issues at all?
   
   any ideas?
2. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #2 20th July 2012, 10:36

   Coilpack? Does it sound like it's firing on 3?
3. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #3 20th July 2012, 10:37

   have no idea mate. happens so rare, just seems theres no pull to it no power. or to explain it like a pleb like someones stuffed a potato up the tailpipe
4. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #4 20th July 2012, 10:41

   Best of investing in one of those £20 code readers of the bay
5. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #5 20th July 2012, 10:42

   i'll take it to garage just hoped someone on here may have similar probs and say bang its this
6. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #6 20th July 2012, 10:45

   Ok, well for the price they'd charge you to plug it in once... you could have your own to use over and over
   
   When my coilpack had random misfires.. that caused my engine management light to flash
7. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #7 20th July 2012, 11:37

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxova Ok, well for the price they'd charge you to plug it in once... you could have your own to use over and over When my coilpack had random misfires.. that caused my engine management light to flash

   rather friendly with my garage so its a freebie.
   
   butttt its not missfiring just wont allow me to rev past 2-3k and seems to labour really bad. just drove it now and no problems at all
8. Karlb1 Established Member Joined: Jan 2011 Aylesbury Posts: 1868 Seat Leon Cupra tdi

   #8 22nd July 2012, 21:49

   Could be damp in somewhere in the bay. Could be a bad MAP or MAF sensor, coilpack, fueling issue. Those are what id check first. How does it idle?
9. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

   #9 24th July 2012, 10:46

   code reader turned up today and seems i could have been wrong, codes was for random/multiple cylinder misfire detected, so is this the coilpack?
10. Craig_B Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2009 Pontypool, S.Wales Posts: 3640 RenaultSport Clio 197 + Ph1 172

    #10 24th July 2012, 11:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marcusd code reader turned up today and seems i could have been wrong, codes was for random/multiple cylinder misfire detected, so is this the coilpack?

    Where did you get this reader from?
    
    My VTS runs a bit dodge and wouldn't mind buying one of these if they cheap to see of there's a problem.
11. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

    #11 24th July 2012, 11:06

    saxova posted a link to one off ebay its like £23 and works fine the thread was in performance and title was code reader i think
12. afn33 L-plater Joined: Jul 2009 Durham UK Posts: 76 I did own a Saxo, however my son has it now.. Toy

    #12 27th August 2012, 20:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by marcusd rather friendly with my garage so its a freebie. butttt its not missfiring just wont allow me to rev past 2-3k and seems to labour really bad. just drove it now and no problems at all

    mmm got the same problem, got the RAC out, their man did the diagnostics, it showed ''random multiple misfires'' he told me to change fuel asap did so it was ok for a while then back to running like shit and then after leaving it a while ran ok again, feels like the bottom is falling out, won't rev well, seems to ''hunt' could be the petrol but having changed it once I doubt it..You get yours sorted mate.. ?
13. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #13 27th August 2012, 20:32

    If it is a random misfire then the fault code will probs be po300 ie a new coil pack is needed.At the same time though i`ve filled up with cheap fuel & had the eml on & the car running like shit.
14. Pink1991 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2012 Hastings Posts: 437 1998 1.3 ford escort 1999 1.5d citroen saxo

    #14 27th August 2012, 20:34

    I know this probs won't be much help but maybe just running it till empty, put a full tank in and some redex? Mine was running like shit for a while, went like a tractor ans just got some redex in there and took it for a nice long drive and basically sorted it. Proba just some deposits in the system and needs a good flush. Maybe also change of fuel filter? Might be blocked up or something.
15. afn33 L-plater Joined: Jul 2009 Durham UK Posts: 76 I did own a Saxo, however my son has it now.. Toy

    #15 28th August 2012, 13:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pink1991 I know this probs won't be much help but maybe just running it till empty, put a full tank in and some redex? Mine was running like shit for a while, went like a tractor ans just got some redex in there and took it for a nice long drive and basically sorted it. Proba just some deposits in the system and needs a good flush. Maybe also change of fuel filter? Might be blocked up or something.

    mmm never heard of anyone using Redex for a long, long while. I mean in the days of yore before unleaded petrol and unleaded petrol engines I put a shot in regularly but never since.. I'm gambling on this being ignition rather than fuel. I base this gamble on the fact that the misfire if you can call it that almost kicks you out the cab happens at both low and high revs and is inconsistent.Actually [and I am not sure if your aware of this] one is able to check the coil. Haynes point to checking ''resistance'', this is of low and high tension at a regular temperature of 20c..To do this one must use a multimeter, and of course be able to interpret the reading..Its a chew on I know, but where one can save a few bob and get the satisfaction of the fix, it needs to be done.. Must admit I'm an armchair fixer now and probably will do bugger all about it except put it in a garage, whereas 40-45 years ago I would be itching to get at it.
16. marcusd Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2009 warrington Posts: 7551 posi blue mk2 2003 vtr

    #16 28th August 2012, 17:54

    yea mines all sorted, bought new coilpack, map sensor and icv too as eurocarparts had a special discount code so got the whole lot for £54 delivered coilpack alone sorted the problem out as havent has a issue since.

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