VTS/GTI conversion

1. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

   #1 23rd July 2012, 00:13

   Had a GTI engine put in my saxo, had cams fitted aswell..
   
   My question to people is:
   
   When at traffic lights or in traffic it idles really badly and cuts out, do people think could be a ICV or will this be down to a re-map needed
   
   Also my dials won't work, dose anyone know which wires from the loom I need to wire up as it must be wrong.
   
   It's 2001 furio 3plug that's gone to a single plug GTI
   
   Cheers
2. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #2 23rd July 2012, 00:30

   cant help with the dials, but stalling / poor idle is likely cam timing - what settings did you use for the cams (timing) and what cams are they?
3. Karlb1 Established Member Joined: Jan 2011 Aylesbury Posts: 1868 Seat Leon Cupra tdi

   #3 23rd July 2012, 00:51

   As far as I know, the saxo interior loom doesn't match to the 106 loom, so you will need to re-wire it but i can't help anyt further with that.
   
   However that bad idling will most likely be cam timing...what cams are they and what are the timing marks set to?
   if they're mild/fast road cams they will need a map
   
   However the cutting out makes me think it could be the MAP/MAF sensor needs cleaning or wiring needs checking for them, and sicne the ICV only takes a few mins to clean, you might aswell give that a go anyway.
4. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

   #4 23rd July 2012, 01:28

   I had the cams and the belt fitted for me while i was away on holiday..
   
   How would I check if it is correct?
5. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

   #5 23rd July 2012, 01:28

   Cheers will give sensors a clean tomorrow
6. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

   #6 23rd July 2012, 08:23

   My VTS conversion did the same it was coilpack
7. rich112 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2009 Kent Posts: 4207 Mango cammed furio vts

   #7 23rd July 2012, 13:59

   Mine done this when it didn't have a map.
8. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

   #8 23rd July 2012, 23:08

   http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/...0/5e1eed89.mp4
   
   Any ideas???
9. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

   #9 23rd July 2012, 23:09

   That's the car on idle any ideas what causes it
10. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

    #10 24th July 2012, 17:28

    Bump....
11. jones91 Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Bridgnorth (Shropshire) Posts: 2001 Jdm Dc2 Integra

    #11 24th July 2012, 20:44

    When my dials didn't work, I found it to be a loose earth located behind the fuel rail... that might be causing the issue with the dials
12. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #12 24th July 2012, 20:49

    Mine did that when i done my conversion it turned out to be a bent pin on the ICV connector!
    Worth a try
13. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #13 24th July 2012, 23:20

    You haven't answered what cams they are?
    
    Sounds and looks like a cam timing issue.
14. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #14 24th July 2012, 23:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RossDagley You haven't answered what cams they are? Sounds and looks like a cam timing issue.

    Good point, but i have put catcam 743's on car recently on standerd timing marks and it idle lumpy stalls now and then but not like that lol
15. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

    #15 25th July 2012, 00:05

    At the moment I know they are catcams..
    
    It idles fine for abit and then it will start idling Like that...
16. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #16 25th July 2012, 00:13

    Probably 748's then. Like ph3's - will work if you adjust cam timing a smidge, but on standard marks are very symptomatic of your video.
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cam Good point, but i have put catcam 743's on car recently on standerd timing marks and it idle lumpy stalls now and then but not like that lol

    not you silly, the OP
17. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #17 25th July 2012, 01:26

    ^^ I know that i was just saying
    
    Anyway race for pinks?
18. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #18 25th July 2012, 01:30

    Lol @ race for pinks. Not heard that in ages
19. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #19 25th July 2012, 01:35

    Lol well you know
    
    
    Gaz check what i said i'll upload a video of what mine did when i had the same problem, wont be till around 7am as i'm at work..
20. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #20 25th July 2012, 01:36

    If I had more drive space I'd race more for pinks
21. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #21 25th July 2012, 01:40

    Ha hijack but keeps thread bumping..
    
    Best car you blown off ?
22. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #22 25th July 2012, 16:50

    Gaz
    http://i1134.photobucket.com/albums/...n/b8f9d918.mp4
    
    Was a bent pin on my ICV
23. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

    #23 25th July 2012, 23:09

    What other problems...would the timing cause as..
    
    When driving it sometime kangaroos?
    What would cause that MAP?
24. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #24 25th July 2012, 23:18

    Well how are spose to know every time someone posts you ignore it and ask other stuff!
25. Furio-Gaz-Saxo Frequent Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Birstall, Batley Posts: 890 First Car - Saxo 1.1 Green 1997 97K Second Car -S

    #25 26th July 2012, 11:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cam Well how are spose to know every time someone posts you ignore it and ask other stuff!

    Sorry cam I should have said, I am tryin all the things you lot are saying?
    And is that video pretty much the same as what mine doing