does full suspension kits make your car go...

1. Mitchell Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2005 Fife Posts: 6901

   #1 8th August 2006, 18:25

   BANG! when you go over a hole? im lowered about WTF!?mm on the front (i aint got a clue, probs 40mm) just springs n everytime i go over a big bump or a wee hole i get a big THUD! and the ride quality is rather shite.
   
   I'm talking about 60mm by the way ;D
   
   any help will be greatly appreciated n i mite rep your face if u make me smile
   
   ta!
2. Graemep Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2004 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 11649 FN2 Civic Type-R

   #2 8th August 2006, 18:30

   even though what you have just put doesnt make any sence
   
   i cant see a full kit making much differnce tbh as im down 60mm on just springs and mine doesnt go BANG! over bumps/holes i do avoid them like mad though
   
   i will even go on the other side of the road to avoid going through a pot hole!!
3. s60tsy Established Member Joined: Feb 2005 leigh, manchester Posts: 1181 VTS FOR SALE!!!

   #3 8th August 2006, 18:32

   mines lowered with just springs and its horrible when you hit a bump you dont see, and you can hear your dash falling off. one day im gonna see bits off my car in the mirror rolling away
4. Mitchell Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2005 Fife Posts: 6901

   #4 8th August 2006, 18:33

   but a full kit contains uprated shocks and the whole works
   
   so a would of thought it would make the ride nicer...
5. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #5 8th August 2006, 18:42

   if your down 60mm there isnt shocks made that are short enough even the bilstein shortened shocks are not short enough, the bang is your suspenion bottoming out and transfering all the shock through the car.
6. Graemep Saxperience Addict Joined: Sep 2004 Warrington, Cheshire Posts: 11649 FN2 Civic Type-R

   #6 8th August 2006, 18:44

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Scott if your down 60mm there isnt shocks made that are short enough even the bilstein shortened shocks are not short enough, the bang is your suspenion bottoming out and transfering all the shock through the car.

   
   is that the main reason why most people suggest you get a full kit over just spings??
7. Mitchell Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2005 Fife Posts: 6901

   #7 8th August 2006, 18:45

   so there is no way around the bangs then? except keeping my car at reasonable height?
8. Fredward Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2006 Surrey/New Zealand Posts: 715 205 GTaiii 1.9, 4.0 litre six pot Ford saloon :S

   #8 8th August 2006, 18:49

   Uprated dampers; stiffer, longer springs.
   
   OK?!
9. Scottp Administrator Joined: Dec 2002 Glasgow United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 26097 Chelski Traktor

   #9 8th August 2006, 18:54

   problem is the lack of suspension travel when your that low so the bang is the bottoming out, if you wanted to go that low then custom uber hard springs would stop the bottoming out but the ride would still be harsh
10. daveg_vtr Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2005 scottish borders United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 684 corsa sport

    #10 8th August 2006, 19:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by s60tsy mines lowered with just springs and its horrible when you hit a bump you dont see, and you can hear your dash falling off. one day im gonna see bits off my car in the mirror rolling away

    thats exactly how mine feels an twice it's hit so hard the car has cut out and needed to be reset
11. Mitchell Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2005 Fife Posts: 6901

    #11 8th August 2006, 19:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by daveg_vtr thats exactly how mine feels an twice it's hit so hard the car has cut out and needed to be reset

    mines has done that twice! know how u feel.
12. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #12 9th August 2006, 18:09

    have you checked the drivers side track rod isn't hitting the PAS pipe? it gets in the way on some saxo's.
13. madsaxo L-plater Joined: Aug 2006 sunny rhyl Posts: 37 black saxo vts 52 plate

    #13 10th August 2006, 15:15

    ye i had that prob on me mk 2 but the same kit on the mk 1 didnt make a didiffrence oh there both vts aswell
14. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #14 10th August 2006, 23:01

    i spoke to citoen about this and they said there is about 5 variations of PAS systems. they also dont have any significance to model or year. i am not sure how to tell if you will have that prob without lowering the car to find out.
15. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #15 10th August 2006, 23:01

    if you do have that problem though you can get a curved track rod that clears the PAS pipe.
16. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #16 10th August 2006, 23:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts if you do have that problem though you can get a curved track rod that clears the PAS pipe.

    bollocks to paying 30odd quid or whatever it costs for one of those, just bend the pipe out of way. job done.and it's only applicable to mk2's
17. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #17 10th August 2006, 23:13

    not all though. some do some dont.
    bending the pipe could kink or crack it though.
18. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #18 10th August 2006, 23:15

    nah it wouldnt crack the pipe, only has to be moved a little and there's enough give in the pipe for it to be ok.
19. bloz Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2004 Penkridge (Staffs),GB! Posts: 898 350z , 2007 Swift Sport

    #19 15th August 2006, 16:59

    I get the bang as well, i have a small solution wen my car was 60mm all round it was really bad but now its 100mm on the rear the weight sits more at the bak, thus less pressure on my front dampers and less nasty bangs, problem is now my spine feels like its gonna shatter,
20. Saxo_Seann Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2011 aberdeenshire Posts: 106 'T' Reg Posi Westcoast

    #20 19th June 2011, 01:32

    did u get it sorted?
21. gaz4399 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2007 Chester Posts: 2850 1275 mini

    #21 19th June 2011, 01:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxo_Seann did u get it sorted?

    epic bump

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22. Saxo_Seann Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2011 aberdeenshire Posts: 106 'T' Reg Posi Westcoast

    #22 19th June 2011, 01:37

    lol =]
23. mlawlan69 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2010 leeds Posts: 4389 MCS R53 S/C 16v furiooo

    #23 19th June 2011, 02:22

    seriosuly stop fucking bumping 5 year old threads. spamming gives no credibility and it takes a while for the for sale section to become visible anyway

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