bit camber in the rear wheel

31st July 2012, 17:39

just noticed today that the rear right wheel is bending in a bit, does this mean a new axle? what have others done when this has happened?

31st July 2012, 17:41

Stick your fingers in between the tyre and arch or look underneath to see what the gap is. Might just be how you're parked tbh.

31st July 2012, 17:45

should the Tyre be flush with the arch? is that what you mean

31st July 2012, 17:51

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Originally Posted by slimwiltaz

should the Tyre be flush with the arch? is that what you mean

No

Just measured mine and its near 2" from the arch to tyre (inner) both sides.

31st July 2012, 18:00

ill find a tape measure, took sum photos, ill show you

31st July 2012, 18:25

and this is the side that looks ok

31st July 2012, 18:27

Oh i see :/

31st July 2012, 18:28

Driver's side deffo looks worse. Have you jacked it up both sides and checked for play?

31st July 2012, 18:30

not yet, i done it not so long ago and it was solid. ill try see if it has play. i had a vtr and the wheel wiggled like mad, just my luck, is it a new axle on the cards??

31st July 2012, 18:37

just had ago. it doesn't wiggle at all but moves up and down but that's just the suspension yeah?

31st July 2012, 18:42

Does it move up and down at the axle end of the arm or does it just rotate at the axle end? Looks like borked axle bearings or wheel bearings to me. If you replace the bearings immediately you may not have damaged the beam bearing surfaces if it hasn't been like that long.

31st July 2012, 18:46

the arm moves up and down mate when i try and wiggle the wheel in and out its solid??

31st July 2012, 18:51

crikey! looks rather donald ducked both sides.

31st July 2012, 18:58

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Originally Posted by slimwiltaz

the arm moves up and down mate when i try and wiggle the wheel in and out its solid??

Yes but at which end does it move up and down? easiest way to tell is to try and move the axle end of the arm up and down in the tube. If it moves more than about 1/2mm the bearing is f*cked.

31st July 2012, 18:59

I'd be surprised if theres no play at all with camber that bad. Must be/close to rubbing on the inner arch? Sadly i'd probably start preparing yourself for an axle in the near future though.

31st July 2012, 19:07

whats the best way of going about getting a new axle? best buying new in case a second hand one just goes the same way? its not rubbing (yet lol) its just recently happend to

mechsman i will try that out later, hard to explain but when i pushed the wheel up i had a look and the arm just moved with the wheel a little bit.

31st July 2012, 19:11

I would mate. You just cant trust a random axel of some saxo/106 (thats just me though).

http://www.imaxle.co.uk/catalog/refu...e-saxo-vtr-vts

31st July 2012, 19:11

When you do end up needing an axle and want to keep the car for a fair while, it makes sense to get one from IM axles. Come with a warranty iirc and all painted up etc, not cheap mind. Although they do give you a bit of money off if you give them your knackered one to refurb i think. If you're not intending to keep the car for a long time you could chance a second hand one, obviously that could fail 2 days/weeks/years after you fit it, who knows when.

31st July 2012, 19:18

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Originally Posted by Prickle

I would mate. You just cant trust a random axel of some saxo/106 (thats just me though).

http://www.imaxle.co.uk/catalog/refu...e-saxo-vtr-vts

+1 because down the line if you buy a scrapyard/ebay 1 you don`t know how much life its got,whereas IMaxles have a good rep mate.

31st July 2012, 19:22

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Originally Posted by slimwiltaz

whats the best way of going about getting a new axle? best buying new in case a second hand one just goes the same way? its not rubbing (yet lol) its just recently happend to

mechsman i will try that out later, hard to explain but when i pushed the wheel up i had a look and the arm just moved with the wheel a little bit.

If the arm moves at the axle end the axle bearings are defo borked. If the wheel can be wiggled relative to the arm it's the wheel bearings.

Given the camber and the fact it isn't rubbing yet I would say it's new axle or new axle bearings time. Then it simply comes down to how much you wanna vs how much risk you wanna take.

31st July 2012, 19:31

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Originally Posted by mechsman

If the arm moves at the axle end the axle bearings are defo borked. If the wheel can be wiggled relative to the arm it's the wheel bearings.

Given the camber and the fact it isn't rubbing yet I would say it's new axle or new axle bearings time. Then it simply comes down to how much you wanna vs how much risk you wanna take.

i think it was moving at the axle end mate, i'm in 2 minds at the minute get a good axle and keep the car or sell the few mods it has and sell it for cheap. get something else

31st July 2012, 20:20

Dont sell chris u big dafty

31st July 2012, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Collavts

Dont sell chris u big dafty

lol i always feel like this when something happens

31st July 2012, 20:23

Well you kno what im like aswel, it takes the slightest problem and im ready to sell up. Ya shud keep it man, you love it ha

31st July 2012, 20:36

jesus christ thats leaning in a fair bit!
my personal opinion... i wouldnt spend 350 on a brand new refurbed axle which is about half the value of the car itself lol

id just chance it with a 2nd hand one from here/scrap yard for £100 or less. even if you go through 3 2nd hand axles you'll still be better off financially lol

31st July 2012, 20:49

To the op how much MOT left on the car?

31st July 2012, 20:52

2 month mate

31st July 2012, 20:53

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Originally Posted by LSOfreak

jesus christ thats leaning in a fair bit!
my personal opinion... i wouldnt spend 350 on a brand new refurbed axle which is about half the value of the car itself lol

id just chance it with a 2nd hand one from here/scrap yard for £100 or less. even if you go through 3 2nd hand axles you'll still be better off financially lol

Depends how much you want to keep the car though.

Id hum and har at first but id most likely take a punt if it was mine.

Hows your car overall, rust wise etc slim?

31st July 2012, 20:54

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Originally Posted by Prickle

Depends how much you want to keep the car though.

Id hum and har at first but id most likely take a punt if it was mine.

Hows your car overall, rust wise etc slim?

no rust mate its really clean to be honest, nothing else wrong with it as i know of anyway, just had cams ect done to so spend a canny bit,

31st July 2012, 20:57

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Originally Posted by slimwiltaz

no rust mate its really clean to be honest, nothing else wrong with it as i know of anyway, just had cams ect done to so spend a canny bit,

Balls in your court matey pops.

31st July 2012, 21:00

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Originally Posted by Prickle

Balls in your court matey pops.

yip ill have a think lol what i would do is put the standard cams back in sell the cat cams then sell the car and count my losses

31st July 2012, 21:18

here is 2 photos of sunday night it don't look to bad, must of got bad in the last 2 days.....

31st July 2012, 21:35

See it luks mint there, dont sell it man

2nd August 2012, 19:52

My old sax axle looked like that was told it was axle.

2nd August 2012, 19:57

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Originally Posted by slimwiltaz

yip ill have a think lol what i would do is put the standard cams back in sell the cat cams then sell the car and count my losses

How handy are you with a set of spanners mate?Buy a recon beam & fit it yourself.Tbh if I added up how much i`ve spent on my saxo it`d come out more than the car is worth.

2nd August 2012, 20:59

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Originally Posted by stevo67

How handy are you with a set of spanners mate?Buy a recon beam & fit it yourself.Tbh if I added up how much i`ve spent on my saxo it`d come out more than the car is worth.

not to bad if i have a guide haha, got the wife to drive it and i followed in her car and it don't look have as bad as i thought.

2nd August 2012, 21:01

Undo the brake pipes, handbrake cable and 2 bolts to unbolt it off the car right? (not done it myself but if thats what it is it sounds not too bad lol)

I bet they weigh a ton though lololol.

2nd August 2012, 21:15

do excuse the picture quality, but i took this today (driver rear wheel)

2nd August 2012, 21:20

looking at the pics id say its defo boned mate

2nd August 2012, 21:28

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Originally Posted by blackie_2k5

looking at the pics id say its defo boned mate

aye a think so like, heard that manic motors have opened again new owners tho. if its true i might ask if they can rebuild it because they offered to do that on the vtr i had, when it was manic motors