Help! Manifold fitment = snapped bolt :@

1. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #1 2nd August 2012, 16:44

   Hi
   On my manifold one of the threads has snapped, undoing the nut caused it to snap
   I only wanted to change them to Allen key heads
   Any ideas of what I can do?
   
   The manifold won't drop off but aesthetics are killing me!
2. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #2 2nd August 2012, 16:47

   Drill it it or take the mani off and you may be able to get a stud remover on it
3. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #3 2nd August 2012, 16:47

   Take the manifold off and mole grip whats left of the stud.
   
   Kick in balls, but that's the only way
   
   Id just leave it as it is lol.
4. danny-vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr

   #4 2nd August 2012, 16:47

   remove mani, and unscrew snapped thread using molegrips
5. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #5 2nd August 2012, 16:53

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Cam Drill it it or take the mani off and you may be able to get a stud remover on it

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxova Take the manifold off and mole grip whats left of the stud. Kick in balls, but that's the only way Id just leave it as it is lol.

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by danny-vts remove mani, and unscrew snapped thread using molegrips

   Drilling it might knacker the threads surely :/
   I'd rather not have take the manifold off again
   But seems like that's what everyone is saying!
   I wouldn't mind leaving it, but I'll just know its there!
   You sure mole grips will be able to take it out? Turning with a spanner snapped it, must be a tight 'un!
6. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #6 2nd August 2012, 17:03

   WD40, when they're tight to undo - turn it back, then go again, abit at a time Was a tip off a old farmer lol.
7. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #7 2nd August 2012, 17:04

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxova WD40, when they're tight to undo - turn it back, then go again, abit at a time Was a tip off a old farmer lol.

   Nice one
   Shall give it a wiggle and twist and see how we get on!
8. Oli-VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Nottingham/South London Posts: 976 Icelandic Grey VTR Mk2

   #8 2nd August 2012, 17:06

   if ya desperate not to take the manifold drop a touch of weld and a nut on whats left of the broken one and just unscrew her, then replace the bolt
9. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #9 2nd August 2012, 17:09

   Not sure if you've seen the picture, but I won't be able to put a nut on the thread, it's faced off!
   Unless you mean weld the nut to the face, which probably won't hold
10. Oli-VTR Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Nottingham/South London Posts: 976 Icelandic Grey VTR Mk2

    #10 2nd August 2012, 17:14

    yeah i was thinking weld a small bolt or something onto the face, might just be worth it to save taking off the whole exhaust system just to swap one bolt!
11. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #11 2nd August 2012, 17:16

    It's an idea I suppose
    If I had a welder :/
12. rick_VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2011 Abermule, Mid Wales. Posts: 2763 Corsa Rally Car & Fiesta ST

    #12 2nd August 2012, 17:22

    i did this mate, its the shock that snaps them, doesnt have to be that tight, them rusty old studs are pretty brittle.
    
    i just took undid the other 7 nuts and dropped the mani forward off the stud and used some mole grips.
    
    no need to undo the joint underneath to centre section.
    
    i also did this method when i couldnt undo a bolt so i chiseled the head off, removed mani and used mole grips on the stud
    
    works a treat, easyiest way tbh.
13. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #13 2nd August 2012, 17:24

    Sounds like I'm gonna be taking the front off then
    Oh well it's only 8, well 7 bolts and you think mole grips will take it out?
14. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #14 2nd August 2012, 19:05

    Undo the rest of the bolts take the mani off & if mole grips don`t work,then cut a slot in the bolt.Then take a ratchet with a flat blade screwdriver bit & try & take it off that way.If your doing it the 1st way then run the engine up nice & hot then try(expansion)
15. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #15 2nd August 2012, 22:10

    Nice one
    Looks like mole grips are the first port of call!
16. slimwiltaz Established Member Joined: Dec 2011 co durham Posts: 1150 cammed saxo vts(not any more) leon cupra

    #16 3rd August 2012, 05:44

    let me know how you get on, this has kind of changed my mine, as i am wanting to remove my mani for heat-rapping and new gasket
17. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #17 3rd August 2012, 09:40

    Will do!
    Won't probably be until Sunday/Monday though!
18. Ben_SaxoForte Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Stoke-on-trent Posts: 2640 Mk5 Golf GTTDI Mk2 VTR Project

    #18 4th August 2012, 14:57

    mine did exactly the same and I used the mole grips, wiggling it about worked in the end but you need a bloody tight grip on it!
19. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

    #19 4th August 2012, 15:27

    i banged a 6mm socket on the stud and then it will undo
20. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #20 4th August 2012, 21:46

    Any luck Dolby20?
21. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #21 4th August 2012, 22:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_SaxoForte mine did exactly the same and I used the mole grips, wiggling it about worked in the end but you need a bloody tight grip on it!

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sam_16v i banged a 6mm socket on the stud and then it will undo

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 Any luck Dolby20?

    Mole grips it will be!
    I'll try the 6mm after the grips!
    No chance to try! Thinking of trying tomorrow though
22. user_50346 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Houghton-Le-Spring Posts: 366 C2 vts

    #22 5th August 2012, 01:22

    mole grips and wd40, this happened to me today :|
23. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #23 5th August 2012, 09:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rhysg mole grips and wd40, this happened to me today :|

    Bad luck! But at least you found a remedy!