Ultimate suspension overhaul....

1. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #1 2nd August 2012, 16:49

   Hi
   I'm looking at totally overhauling my suspension system
   I just want to know what else I'd need as I have:
   New wishbones - these have the ball joints in them - also new, and therefore ball joints or track rod ends are required...right?
   New powerflex wishbone bushes
   New powerflex front ARB bushes
   New powerflex rear beam bushes
   
   I plan to get:
   Bilstein Group N dampers
   H+R 40mm lowering springs
   Group N top mounts
   Bilstein B8 rear dampers
   
   What else do I need?
   Like drop links?
   They're the only thing that springs to mind really! Anything else you can advise? I don't need things like 'buy gaz' or 'powerflex is wank'
   
   Thanks guys
2. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #2 2nd August 2012, 17:07

   balljoint's + track rod ends
   
   EDIT: didnt see your 'new wishbones' so will come with new balljoints.
3. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #3 2nd August 2012, 17:08

   Those are the buggers!
   Will edit the list
   Thanks!
4. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #4 2nd August 2012, 17:11

   Those are the buggers!
   Will edit the list
   Thanks!
5. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #5 2nd August 2012, 17:34

   Well all I can actually think of is drop links
   I've checked on eBay ranging from £5 to £80!
   Is there really a reason one pair is a tenner and the other pair is £80!?
6. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #6 2nd August 2012, 17:36

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Joe Upgraded rear wishbone mounts? If its going to take a hammering, strut strength plates and diesel wishbones?

   Thanks
   Won't be taking a hammering as such!
   Don't think I'll need the plated or stronger wishbones
   But the rear wishbone mounts interest me now, Spoox ones?
7. user_21226 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 wirral Posts: 6348 Icelandic vtr turbo

   #7 2nd August 2012, 17:43

   There's a solid red one thats made of the same thing as floflex bushes but I can't remember who makes them.
   
   What about upgrading the rear arb for one out a 106gti?
8. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

   #8 2nd August 2012, 18:37

   They may be too much though I'm thinking!
   I think the only component I need is a pair of drop links just to be safe! Wishbone has ball joints and track rod ends already!
9. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #9 3rd August 2012, 09:36

   All new bolts in 12.9 grade to go with them??
   
   Can even do the ones on the arb!!!

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10. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #10 3rd August 2012, 09:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by swampy All new bolts in 12.9 grade to go with them?? Can even do the ones on the arb!!!

    That's a good idea coz I always read 'replace the bolt'
    Bit picky....do you have a total price for the bolts to cater for a front suspension overhaul?
    
    Thanks
11. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

    #11 3rd August 2012, 09:52

    I recently bought these of the bay :
    
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/106-GTI-SA...9#ht_500wt_899
    
    

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12. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #12 3rd August 2012, 09:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxova I recently bought these of the bay : http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/106-GTI-SA...9#ht_500wt_899

    Good shout although I'll see what swampy has to offer too
13. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #13 3rd August 2012, 10:42

    Is that necessary? lol
14. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #14 3rd August 2012, 11:03

    I have a 106 gti rear anti roll bar at work if you are interested?
15. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #15 3rd August 2012, 11:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle Is that necessary? lol

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bedford126 I have a 106 gti rear anti roll bar at work if you are interested?

    A 'no stone unturned' scenario tbh!
    And thanks but not thanks, I'm leaving the rear beam as is, just changing the dampers on the back
16. LSOfreak Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810

    #16 3rd August 2012, 11:08

    new top mount bearings?
17. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #17 3rd August 2012, 11:11

    I'll sort you a price later!!
    
    Mine are better quality than that as they are galvanised so have far better protection against rust!!!
    
    Personally I would advise people to avoid that seller on eBay and use either of my accounts
    
    Kaarparts1
    Or
    9657adriana
    
    The bolts may be a bit more but they won't rust the first time the car gets wet and im a member on here aswell
18. user_51379 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS

    #18 3rd August 2012, 11:12

    How Much for rear arb bedford?
19. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #19 3rd August 2012, 11:15

    as already said the wishbone mounts i have spoox/vibrtechnic ones (99% they are the same item from both same company ie a vibratechnic item but sold under spoox branding)
20. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #20 3rd August 2012, 12:30

    I can do the following bolts for the suspension
    
    Front pinch bolts
    Front arb mounts
    Rear wishbone bolt
    Rear beam mount bolts
    Rear shocker mount bolts
    
    Pm for prices
21. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #21 3rd August 2012, 18:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LSOfreak new top mount bearings?

    I'm thinking the group N top mounts will be ok
    
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by swampy I'll sort you a price later!! Mine are better quality than that as they are galvanised so have far better protection against rust!!! Personally I would advise people to avoid that seller on eBay and use either of my accounts Kaarparts1 Or 9657adriana The bolts may be a bit more but they won't rust the first time the car gets wet and im a member on here aswell

    Cheers for that swampy!
    
    
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffchiz as already said the wishbone mounts i have spoox/vibrtechnic ones (99% they are the same item from both same company ie a vibratechnic item but sold under spoox branding)

    I might have to have a look at those rear mounts then! The one that go on the end of the wishnone that then come up through the floor?
    
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by swampy I can do the following bolts for the suspension Front pinch bolts Front arb mounts Rear wishbone bolt Rear beam mount bolts Rear shocker mount bolts Pm for prices

    Pm'ing now bud!
22. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #22 3rd August 2012, 22:31

    Let me k ow which you want dude
    
    Mist I have a few I have to order but we can sort a deal out on the prices I sent you
    
    Cheers
23. dolby20 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 Esholt - West Yorkshire Posts: 3113 Citroen Saxo VTR 2002

    #23 3rd August 2012, 22:39

    no worries
    let me get the big components sorted then i'll give you a shout for the finer details