engine change situation

13th August 2012, 19:00

Right so i've been on the hunt for a 1.4 to put into my westy as the current 1.1 is on the way out (no, "just a put a VT lump in" please, don't waste yours and my time) and i'm fed up of spending money on it. Today i got a phone call saying a friend of a friend had one sitting in his shed and wanted rid of it, he said he'd give it to me but i give him a tenner none the less. However, it doesn't have a wiring loom and has the automatic like plate thing coming out the crank shaft. Queries i have are can i just buy another loom for the same model engine, unlock my ecu and things be okay? Also i presume there isn't nothing different about the engine it being a auto and i just need to unbolt the auto plate/clutch and bolt it onto my clutch and gearbox from my car?

You may think why i brought it without knowing this, but i thought for a tenner even if it isn't what i want i'd be able to make some money on it after giving it a clean anyway.

any info would be appreciated! Chris

13th August 2012, 21:19

isn't a westcoast a 1.4 anyways?
you may need to swap the flywheel over also.
if it's a mk1 engine and so is yours (both single plug) should be plug and play using your wiring loom. just need to get ahold of a 1.4 ecu, unlocked ofcourse.

13th August 2012, 21:59

Sorry mate been a spastic its a 1.1 easty ha had the car a year and don't even know what it is! Yes its from a mk1 99 reg 1.4... Could check myself but are there any sensors that are different? Seen the mine is single point. Gear box wise am I right in thinking I should just swap everything over clutch flywheel wise yeah? Or should I get a new 1.4 as well, I know its good practice to change the clutch when you can but mine only just had a new one I put in two weeks ago??

13th August 2012, 22:14

i've done this a few weeks back but i did a 1.4 furio engine

i'd get the single plug loom, ecu. im using my 1.1 gearbox on it and it fitted fine! but make sure you sort out fueling as eastcoasts have a return and it could just be me but im making a mess of it lol! pm me if you want any info and im not far from essex

13th August 2012, 22:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe

All 8v from the same years use the same looms iirc

Even crossovers?

14th August 2012, 09:56

Best I find a loom then. Anyone reccomend a place to unlock my ecu?

14th August 2012, 11:29

cam on here mate!

14th August 2012, 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by f13sta

isn't a westcoast a 1.4 anyways?
you may need to swap the flywheel over also.
if it's a mk1 engine and so is yours (both single plug) should be plug and play using your wiring loom. just need to get ahold of a 1.4 ecu, unlocked ofcourse.

As above because the engine may still have the torque convertor still fitted.

14th August 2012, 11:38

That camP?? He lives round my way I think.. I'll get hold of him at some point. you using a 1.1 clutch as well as the box mate?

14th August 2012, 11:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by christoph

That camP?? He lives round my way I think.. I'll get hold of him at some point. you using a 1.1 clutch as well as the box mate?

im not to sure think it camP, i think im using the clutch that came with the engine as it was newish! where abouts you located mate?

14th August 2012, 17:23

Yeah it was, just sent him a message see what he can do... So that probably a 1.4 then no doubt. Lot of people have said use the clutch for the same engine but I'm reluctant as I just put a new one in my one :/ halstead essex mate

14th August 2012, 17:34

that is a bummer, but would be best to use the clutch from the engine so you dont have any problems! you going to run the 1.1 box or the 1.4?

and your only an hour away let me know if you need a hand!!!

EDIT: get a 4 stud conversion done and get 266 brakes

14th August 2012, 17:39

1.1 and 1.4 clutches are the same 180mm iirc and vtr/s are plus a 1.1 box is better than a 1.4 has better ratio's

14th August 2012, 17:40

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Originally Posted by sam_16v

1.1 and 1.4 clutches are the same 180mm iirc and vtr/s are plus a 1.1 box is better than a 1.4 has better ratio's

you know it makes sense! 1.4 engine with the 1.1 box!

looks like i got someone else with the same setup

14th August 2012, 17:42

mate i would recomend a 1.1 box on a vtr and even a vts if you couldnt get a S box

14th August 2012, 17:44

His name is 'CAM'

14th August 2012, 17:45

as above the p is for premium member

Cam
http://www.saxperience.com/forum/member.php?u=48665

14th August 2012, 18:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayline

that is a bummer, but would be best to use the clutch from the engine so you dont have any problems! you going to run the 1.1 box or the 1.4?

and your only an hour away let me know if you need a hand!!!

EDIT: get a 4 stud conversion done and get 266 brakes

1.1 mate haven't got 1.4 box. So reckon i'll just have to suck up and pay for a new clutch. . . . 1.1 clutch soon to be for sale anyone? ?

Ha cheers chap

Yeah i have that in the "list of things to do to my saxo" (yes thats an actual spreadsheet i have)

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam_16v

1.1 and 1.4 clutches are the same 180mm iirc and vtr/s are plus a 1.1 box is better than a 1.4 has better ratio's

oh, seems everywhere else they say have the clutch for the same engine. but i'll keep digging. cheers