Torsion bar :)

  1. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2012 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 236 1997 Diablo Red Peugeot 106 1.1 XL! 3 stud y000!
    #1
    How many mm per spline on the torsion bar is there roughly?
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #2
    there are technical sections on this site you know
  3. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
    #3
    dont lower it by splines!

    you'll fuck your beam up

    remove the bars completely and lower it to however much you want
  4. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #4
    are you on a mission to ignore every section/guide on this site?
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  5. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2012 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 236 1997 Diablo Red Peugeot 106 1.1 XL! 3 stud y000!
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LSOfreak View Post
    dont lower it by splines!

    you'll fuck your beam up

    remove the bars completely and lower it to however much you want
    Okay
  6. Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2012 Chesterfield Posts: 355 White mk2 vtr
    #6
    listen to LSOfreak, im having to shell out for a new beam cos the douche i got the car off naffed up this one
  7. Saxperience Addict Joined: Feb 2009 Middlesbrough Posts: 10620
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    are you on a mission to ignore every section/guide on this site?
    As well as doing every unorthodox conversion in the world, for pennies.
  8. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2012 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 236 1997 Diablo Red Peugeot 106 1.1 XL! 3 stud y000!
    #8
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dave_E30 View Post
    As well as doing every unorthodox conversion in the world, for pennies.
    Shutup you bellend.. So how do i measure how far its going down??
  9. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pug-123 View Post
    Shutup you bellend.. So how do i measure how far its going down??
    By how far you jack the arm up....
  10. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2012 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 236 1997 Diablo Red Peugeot 106 1.1 XL! 3 stud y000!
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by greyjasper51 View Post
    By how far you jack the arm up....
    Last time i did a torsion bar we dropped the full axle and did it by taking the torsion bar out and turned it?
  11. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #11
    Take bar out, jack arm up to desired ride height (higher you jack the arm, the lower the car is) them replace bar...
  12. Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2012 Leeds, West Yorkshire Posts: 236 1997 Diablo Red Peugeot 106 1.1 XL! 3 stud y000!
    #12
    Orite cheers lad
  13. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #13
    Read the FAQs, or use the search function.

    The wonders of the interwebz'
  14. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS
    #14
    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=115312
  15. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #15
    Blackie just linked me this. It looks so simple

    http://www.suzukituning.com/PSA/Suspension/Lowering.htm
  16. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #16
    Just to clear somethong up in my head... When people say about lowering it splines or clicks, its because they dont take the bar out fully, so in effect are over twisting the toraion bar on one side and not enough on the other...?

    Taking it out, setting and refitting is the correct way because you arent putting any extra twist on the bar?
  17. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
    #17
    when doing it by splines/notches you remove the trailing arm from one end which disturbs the seal, letting moisture into the beam eventually giving you some cool looking negative camber
  18. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LSOfreak View Post
    when doing it by splines/notches you remove the trailing arm from one end which disturbs the seal, letting moisture into the beam eventually giving you some cool looking negative camber
    Ballache!!
  19. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #19
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LSOfreak View Post
    when doing it by splines/notches you remove the trailing arm from one end which disturbs the seal, letting moisture into the beam eventually giving you some cool looking negative camber
    Like off all together? adjust fit on?

    It seems pretty much straight forward. the ball ache is getting it out and poss damaging the teeth on the bar?

    If it comes out straight away youre laughing ay..
  20. Newbie Joined: Aug 2012 Scottish Borders Posts: 3 Citroen Saxo 1.6 Vtr Citroen Saxo 1.4 Westcoast F
    #20
    I was told that if you lower the torsion bar the rubbers eventually split which lead to the bearings failing and then the axle snaps, so i was told not to touch it. Is that a load of bull or?
  21. Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car
    #21
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Scanderson121 View Post
    I was told that if you lower the torsion bar the rubbers eventually split which lead to the bearings failing and then the axle snaps, so i was told not to touch it. Is that a load of bull or?
    Yeah thats 100% true mate!!
  22. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
    #22
    no its not true

    theres nothing wrong with lowering your rear aslong as the correct method is used
  23. Newbie Joined: Aug 2012 Scottish Borders Posts: 3 Citroen Saxo 1.6 Vtr Citroen Saxo 1.4 Westcoast F
    #23
    Alright, i'll mabey get it done like
  24. Newbie Joined: Aug 2012 Stone, Staffs Posts: 1 Citroen Saxo VTR 1.6 8V
    #24
    It is tedious, if you are going to do it, try spraying where your torsion bars are with mech oil a day or 2 beforehand or they will be all rusted up and can be an absolute bastard to get out
  25. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Northumberland Posts: 112 MK 1 Posi Blue Saxo
    #25
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by stonevtr View Post
    It is tedious, if you are going to do it, try spraying where your torsion bars are with mech oil a day or 2 beforehand or they will be all rusted up and can be an absolute bastard to get out
    UNDER STATEMENT OF THE DAY... they are total f##ing wan#ers to get out.. unless they have been done before but still make sure you got a whole day from 9 am till 9pm spare cos you may just need it...
  26. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 ringwood Posts: 6305 suzuki swift 1.2 sz3
    #26
    Pfff trade size can of WD 40 everywhere on the ends of the bars. Best money ever spent. Leave for a few days to soak, easy. Like butter.
  27. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2009 Dorking,Surrey,M25 J9 Posts: 2616 Static -80mm Peugeot 405
    #27
    Or just bring it to someone who knows what they're doing... You bwont need to worry then, or wait long... 45mins usually, the xcorrect way, with bar ends cleaned and greased.
  28. L-plater Joined: May 2011 norfolk Posts: 66 Saxo vtr and a Pug cti 1.9
    #28
    My torsion bar that sits behind the yellow axle(in front of the spare wheel) drops slightly from the left to the right, is this ok? As ive tried it for looseness and all seems fine and stiff enough both ends, many thx all
  29. L-plater Joined: Feb 2012 norfolk Posts: 82 Blue 2001 VTS for Motorsport
    #29
    About to do a rear axle change with a re-conned one.

    Just wondered if it is possible/easier to lower the torsion bars on the re-con axle before I fit it to the car?
  30. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 ringwood Posts: 6305 suzuki swift 1.2 sz3
    #30
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by NorfolkunGood View Post
    About to do a rear axle change with a re-conned one.

    Just wondered if it is possible/easier to lower the torsion bars on the re-con axle before I fit it to the car?
    Yeah perfectly do-able