Oil pressure gauge

1. Alexp Central South Joined: Jun 2006 East Sussex Posts: 3105 VTS :)

   #1 21st August 2012, 21:22

   Worth it? Or just a distraction while on track.

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2. user_54826 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2011 Patras Greece Posts: 352 Ford Focus 2.5 ST Citroen Saxo Vts 16v race car

   #2 22nd August 2012, 12:44

   If you only look at it once every 2 laps you could prevent serious damage to your engine , in comparisonto not having any information at all.
3. user_57064 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car

   #3 22nd August 2012, 12:56

   If you set the gauges correctly so that at optium the needles are pointing all straight up everytime you hit the straight a glance down and look to make sure there all pointing up and not bending to the right its all good, thats what i did in karting... I had digital readouts but had enough of a chance to look, read them, read a book and look back up, its how well you know the tracks and how long you know youve got before having to brake... As above, it can save serious damage to the motor...

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4. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #4 22nd August 2012, 19:34

   They are fair
   
   But generally.. Unless there is a light or buzzer.. By the time you realise it's too late
5. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #5 22nd August 2012, 21:01

   my mate has a shift light on his steering column as a warning to save his engine lol very simple and would definatly get your attention if pressure drops
6. Alexp Central South Joined: Jun 2006 East Sussex Posts: 3105 VTS :)

   #6 22nd August 2012, 21:39

   Just thinking about starvation on track but as said how much damage is done by the time you notice it.
7. user_57064 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car

   #7 22nd August 2012, 21:45

   Long corner starvation.... Wont read up quick enough on the gauge... Itll knock the end out first...
   
   Baffle the sumpy poos :-)
8. Alexp Central South Joined: Jun 2006 East Sussex Posts: 3105 VTS :)

   #8 22nd August 2012, 21:55

   Anyone had starvation issues?
9. Dave_P Established Member Joined: Dec 2010 Aberdeen Posts: 2129 Race: 106 Rallye 16v. Road: Mercedes Vito 120 CDI

   #9 23rd August 2012, 13:25

   No... and I'm on soft slicks.
10. Alexp Central South Joined: Jun 2006 East Sussex Posts: 3105 VTS :)

    #10 23rd August 2012, 13:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave_P No... and I'm on soft slicks.

    Can only see what happens
    Have a Brands day coming soon, will be on 888's.
11. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #11 23rd August 2012, 14:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dave_P No... and I'm on soft slicks.

    Dave, serious question, how often do you hold long sweeping corners though, the ones that would likely be real surge inducing? From what I've seen of your (very cool) videos, it's sharp aggressive corners one after another, rather than (say) a long drawn out, tightening bend or something.
12. user_57064 Established Member Joined: Jan 2012 south essex!! Posts: 2442 posi blue vtrs race car

    #12 23rd August 2012, 14:23

    Clearways at brands... Thatll starve a motor!!
13. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #13 23rd August 2012, 15:20

    These engines are not normally that bad for oil pick up, I know many Saxo do track days and be ok.
    
    Just go and enjoy the day, and keep a eye on the levels.
14. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #14 23rd August 2012, 18:15

    ive been.hooning mine around gerrards on r888s with a diff and not had starvation issues
15. 106maxi Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2012 North West Posts: 234

    #15 23rd August 2012, 19:54

    Quote:

    ive been.hooning mine around gerrards on r888s with a diff and not had starvation issues

    Same, but with A048's.
    (I do have a PugSport sump baffle though)
    
    My dash only has tacho, water temp and oil pressure. Don't need to know anything else lol.
16. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #16 23rd August 2012, 21:03

    i dont have anything baffle wise
    and i dont go slow im coming out at about 90-95ish most of the way through 4th that should give enough lateral g to do something but nothing
    
    that said when i had my high comp engine not a pissy 8v i did get a baffle just to play safe so i didnt ruin it
17. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

    #17 29th October 2012, 08:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex Anyone had starvation issues?

    yes, cadwell. pooped a bottom end.

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18. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

    #18 29th October 2012, 08:44

    ^^ before quaife and a baffled sump.
19. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

    #19 6th November 2012, 20:28

    fit the pressure pickup here????????????????????????????
    
    
20. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #20 6th November 2012, 20:31

    ai mate
21. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

    #21 6th November 2012, 20:32

    water here?
    
    
22. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #22 6th November 2012, 20:33

    "think" you can also run it off the side of the head on the 16v as well (for oil that is)
    
    but dont quote me on that as i dont know for sure
    
    lots use them for turbo oil feed so id say that it would be right
    
    but the one on the front of block for defo
23. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

    #23 6th November 2012, 20:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sexy_gt water here?

    not too sure on that one matey
    
    remove it and see if theres water or oil
    
    is that for a temp gauge yeah?
    
    as there might be somewhere on the stat housing for that? as there is on the 8v..
    
    i used to run an inline fitting in the top rad hose for my water temp sender
24. user_4681 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2004 Grimsby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 5489 SUPERCHARGED saxo vts

    #24 6th November 2012, 20:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackie_2k5 not too sure on that one matey remove it and see if theres water or oil is that for a temp gauge yeah? as there might be somewhere on the stat housing for that? as there is on the 8v.. i used to run an inline fitting in the top rad hose for my water temp sender

    water the last time i undid one
    
    this is the forged omega vtr block from the supercharged vtr (yes i still have it lol)
25. scottie_436 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 449

    #25 6th November 2012, 20:59

    Bottom of the thermostat housing theres a spare port stew... Will either have a plug in or an unused brown sensor...somert todo with when they have aircon.
    
    Thread is m14x1.5 btw
26. scottie_436 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 449

    #26 6th November 2012, 21:00

    P.s...
    
    
    
    Those allen plugs either side of the head....
    
    M10 thread.. Straight into the cam oil galleries
27. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #27 6th November 2012, 21:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by scottie_436 P.s... Those allen plugs either side of the head.... M10 thread.. Straight into the cam oil galleries

    Just for anyone else reading this later those plugs are replaced on JP4 heads with ball bearings - pita to get out, but once done, tap M10 as above and plug, and you've got your source
28. scottie_436 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 449

    #28 6th November 2012, 21:25

    Yup.. My jp4 is like that
    
    However.. The jp4 that sandy used as the base for jp's engine has the plugs!!!!
    
    Weird
29. Sandy309 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2010 Cornwall Posts: 349 106 XSi

    #29 7th November 2012, 05:35

    I've not seen many with ball bearings, most JP4s I've seen have had plugs. I prefer to take it from the block though, closer to the main oil gallery and pump. The head can bear pressure drops longer than the bottom end.

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30. scottie_436 Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 449

    #30 7th November 2012, 06:40

    ^^ i'd go with that then ^^
    
    sandy knows more than me