rusty floor beam, changed. questions.

  1. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 Sweden, Ytterby Posts: 199 Citroen Saxo VTS -98 Volvo S70 T5 -99
    #1
    I had an rusty beam, cut Most of it away, then i made one, but in two parts because it turns and goes out to the left under the Seat.

    its the one on the Picture. I tried lift it on the beam to see if it sat correctly and i see the floor goes/bents in.. Tried on the other part where i havent changed anything. And the floor doesnt moves up or bents in, i lift the whole car.

    i used 1,2mm thick Steel about the same as was there before. I dont know if it was like this before i welded and cutted, if so i wouldnt bother, but now i dont know.

  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #2
    Sorry bud but the welding for that beam looks suspect,the joins don`t sit flush.
  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr
    #3
    i'd find another hobby if i was you
  4. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #4
    That looks mess mate in honesty.

    Not a good jab.
  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS
    #5
    that car should never see the road again!
  6. Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.
    #6
    That's not a good job there buddy I'm afraid. From the limited view the photo gives anyway. Which is weird, as your other welding isn't bad in my opinion.

    Can we get some more photos?
  7. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #7
    Also & not having a go at the op but the floor paing adjacent to the welded box section looks heavily corroded.It has a look of wet cardboard(if that make sense)
  8. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 Sweden, Ytterby Posts: 199 Citroen Saxo VTS -98 Volvo S70 T5 -99
    #8
    Do you refer to the distance between the beam and the floor?
    the beam was removed and after this pic and i reinforced it on the inside.

    Still on this Picture it was welded when the jack hold it up with a slight pressure on it to see so it sat tight, so the distance you can see on the Picture, that part i could have just hammered so it sat tight to the floor.

    So, i already had it reweld, but not bcoz of the distance.

    and where the box sits, was a bit metal that the rust had started to get onto, but it wasnt that bad. i changed the metal to the right in the Picture , to the left from where you jack the car.

    The welds look messy tho bcoz of the flux wire, almost like arc welding. As you dont need gas for it.


    Welded this to in a couple of hours including mounting/demont to get right angles.
  9. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 Sweden, Ytterby Posts: 199 Citroen Saxo VTS -98 Volvo S70 T5 -99
    #9
    The beam is however better and stronger than before..
    As im drivin it everyday i want it to be safe, i still didnt just used filler to fill the rust holes Danny.

  10. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 Sweden, Ytterby Posts: 199 Citroen Saxo VTS -98 Volvo S70 T5 -99
    #10
    Can you not Edit your posts?

    this it the latest pic i have of the beam.. Im not ignoring your posts im glad for the opinions, does it look any better on this pic?

  11. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others
    #11
    dont know why everyone is criticising it. most on here just drive around with holes in the chassis opposed to have a crack at welding it.
    I personally would have put inch welds on, but i know how hard it is welding up saxos that are rotten, they spit and pop everywhere, who knows where citroen got the metal from.
    Its a scruffy weld, but the standard piece is only spot welded on so is still stronger!
    seen far worse get through an MOT. and it looks about right, if it scraped, just cut it down a little and weld the face back on.
  12. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by m4tt274 View Post
    dmost on here just drive around with holes in the chassis opposed to have a crack at welding it.
    Not sure if srs.
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Prickle View Post
    Not sure if srs.
    +1 to this there is a real art/knack to welding & tbf that box section thats been welded in doesn`t look right.
  14. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 Sweden, Ytterby Posts: 199 Citroen Saxo VTS -98 Volvo S70 T5 -99
    #14
    What box section do you mean?
  15. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #15
    The piece on the left thats been welded mate,doesn`t line up with the existing section.
  16. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH
    #16
    Tbh mate your welding isn't bad from what I can see on the exhaust. As a rule of thumb for every 6 inch you weld chassis wise should have 2 inch of weld to take the strain and weight of the car. Stitch weld should be used or a spot weld every inch using a zink rich weld through primer.

    Not pulling your work apart just seen it too many times where the cars back has been broken from weak welds.
  17. Established Member Joined: Sep 2010 loughborough Posts: 2229 1988 ford fiesta mk2 1.4- 2001 black saxo furio (d
    #17
    telling you now mate that won't pass an mot like that.

    would have plug welded it myself with a few stich welds every 4 inches of about 1 inch long.

    but the chassis leg was never a good place to jack a car up hence the jacking points are re-enforced.
  18. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #18
    What welder do you use?
  19. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jun 2012 Sweden, Ytterby Posts: 199 Citroen Saxo VTS -98 Volvo S70 T5 -99
    #19
    drivin from the mot to my garage atm.. The beam was Good welded, but it didnt got thru, thw lights aint the right height , and the exhaust values where crap.. Thwn we noticed there is no lambdasensor in my exhaust.. so now i need to find it and weld it in.. Where is the Connection supposed to sit?