clutch gone on a diesel?... some things i want to know

  1. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
    #1
    First of all, im pretty sure its the clutch, basically what happens is when you put your foot down, the engine revs like mad but the car is still at setting off speed, until it eventually picks up and goes (i know diesels are slow but it never used to be like this)

    sound like the clutch slipping yeah? or could it be anything else?

    2nd question, its been about 5 years since ive changed a clutch and that was on a vauxhall nova lol, so does the basic procedure go -

    -remove airbox/ battery
    -remove gearbox oil
    -remove driveshafts
    -undo clutch cable
    -remove sensors/earth
    -put a jack under the..... engine or gearbox? before i start undoing the gearbox mount
    -undo the gearbox bolts and take it off

    anything else?

    due to the clutch slipping, is there anything i should do as well as replace the clutch plate? do i just spray the hell out of the flywheel with clutch/brake cleaner?

    any tips welcome
    thanks
  2. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #2
    If you replace the clutch then it will come with a clutch plate.

    What you said is correct procedure although I would just do a few things differently. Such as rather than drain the oil as a separate step to pulling the shafts out, I would pull the shafts out and collect the oil that drains as a result of removing the shafts.

    Support the engine with the jack. Undo the gearbox bolts first rather than the mount ones first. Dont need to bother spraying the flywheel unless you have had an oil leak.

    Oh and dnt forget you have a starter motor. Also need to pop the struts out the wishbones along with the track rod ends. Leave the shafts bolted into the strut at all times, use the strut to pull the shafts out the box.
  3. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
    #3
    ahh thanks dude, the starter motor, forgot about that one

    i think the clutch started slipping by having a fuel filter leak which leaked in through the top of the gearbox, so in that case, shall i spray the flywheel?


    any tips about putting it back together? ive heard the hardest part is lining up the clutch and putting the box back on with these?

    what can i use to line up the clutch?
  4. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.
    #4
    Hardest part is trying not to knock off the release bearing its the best thing (clutch arm) to use it to lift but you carnt because you'll knock it off lol
  5. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 perth Posts: 224 106 gti cheery red, 106 rallye phase 2 blaca white
    #5
    get a clutch alinment tool will make box going on easier and im my oppinion i would clean the flywheel and the bell housing anyway should be done on any clutch job and use copper grease on dowel holes and the main shaft coming out off the box and release just pulls off and new one just pushes on and i would do ass you said mate take mounts off first then bellhousing bolts hope this helps
  6. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #6
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Cam View Post
    Hardest part is trying not to knock off the release bearing its the best thing (clutch arm) to use it to lift but you carnt because you'll knock it off lol
    This! lol

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bigezz View Post
    get a clutch alinment tool will make box going on easier and im my oppinion i would clean the flywheel and the bell housing anyway should be done on any clutch job and use copper grease on dowel holes and the main shaft coming out off the box and release just pulls off and new one just pushes on and i would do ass you said mate take mounts off first then bellhousing bolts hope this helps
    How would using a clutch alignment tool make the gearbox go on easier? the clutch alignment just aligns the clutch on the flywheel, ive never used one just dont it by eye and got it spot on everytime along with countless other people that do it this way. The clutch alignment tool isnt even anywhere near the car when you are putting a gearbox on!

    If you had a fuel leak then yeh use some brake and clutch cleaner!
  7. Newbie Joined: Sep 2012 stafford Posts: 15 saxo vts
    #7
    also make sure that wen you put the gearbox bk on you dont move the lever too much on the top that moves the release bearing cus it can come off or not sit right and you may not notice until you have completely finnished job lol and when you put your driveshafts bk in try keep the straight as pos cus if you arnt steady and at a angle can break the seals dont think there expensive to replace just more hassle if that happened straight and steady and u will have no problem m8
  8. Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2008 west london Posts: 13810
    #8
    cheers guys
  9. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2011 plymouth Posts: 2921 mk2 VTS
    #9
    I normally use a 1/2 socket extension bar as a alignment tool fits a treat in the Saxo
  10. Established Member Joined: Jun 2011 Hertfordshire Posts: 1574 '07 Saab 93 Vector Sport - '79 Citroën Dyane
    #10
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by sam_16v View Post
    I normally use a 1/2 socket extension bar as a alignment tool fits a treat in the Saxo
    +1 to this, or use a bit of copper pipe with some electrical tape to space it out...

    As for the arm moving and popping the bearing off, cable tie the arm so it doesn't move when lifting.
  11. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 perth Posts: 224 106 gti cheery red, 106 rallye phase 2 blaca white
    #11
    Quote:
    How would using a clutch alignment tool make the gearbox go on easier? the clutch alignment just aligns the clutch on the flywheel, ive never used one just dont it by eye and got it spot on everytime along with countless other people that do it this way. The clutch alignment tool isnt even anywhere near the car when you are putting a gearbox on
    lol its the idea off the cluch being alind means the box will go on first tym rather than wrestling it for 20mins dont no if your aware but its fuk all to do with the flywheel its to do with the main shaft in the box going threw the centre off the friction plate
  12. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 perth Posts: 224 106 gti cheery red, 106 rallye phase 2 blaca white
    #12
    ps while youve took your time and effort or your pride and joy is it really worth cutting corners do the job properly do it once!!
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bigezz View Post
    lol its the idea off the cluch being alind means the box will go on first tym rather than wrestling it for 20mins dont no if your aware but its fuk all to do with the flywheel its to do with the main shaft in the box going threw the centre off the friction plate
    Its fuck all to do with the fly wheel? what is the friction plate pressed up against on the other side of it from the pressure plate side then?

    Hell of a lot of places dont use an alignment tool, its pretty easy to line it up, as the other guys have stated in this thread.
  14. Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2012 perth Posts: 224 106 gti cheery red, 106 rallye phase 2 blaca white
    #14
    i totally agree i dont use an alinment tool most off the time but the guy clearley hasent had much experiance fitting cluches was trying to give him the best advise so these no hickups thats all, surley you no what its like when a box doesent go on first time and ye but your centrilizing the friction plate so the main shaft goes threw it and box goes on squre thats why if its not perfect and you wrestle it about and it goes the friction plate has squred its self up not the flywheel