Alternator problem

1. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

   #1 18th October 2012, 17:52

   Came to fitting my turbo manifold yesterday, then putting the alternator on but the alternator does fit properly as touching the wastegate outlet on the plastic. Im sure ive fitted alternator correctly and i know the manifold fits around the alternator. Here is some pics-
   
   
   
2. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #2 18th October 2012, 17:53

   Do the 8v alternator set up bud
3. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #3 18th October 2012, 19:11

   Normal. You need to run a different alternator (8v or early vts one iirc is shorter).
4. user_36078 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2009 Costa Del Posts: 8010

   #4 18th October 2012, 19:21

   An engine I had used washers to space the Alternator way out, and reversing the Bottom pulley the other way around. It worked. But the 8v Setup if you want a proper job.
5. user_11460 Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2006 Staffs Posts: 3778 207 HDi GT

   #5 18th October 2012, 20:35

   Not the best of pics.
   
   But you can still see that the 8v setup sits much lower
   
   
6. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #6 18th October 2012, 20:45

   
   I use the early type GTI alternator setup on mine as the later (2001+) gti alternator didn't fit (touched the manifold like yours is showing in the photo).
7. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #7 18th October 2012, 20:51

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Ross I use the early type GTI alternator setup on mine as the later (2001+) gti alternator didn't fit (touched the manifold like yours is showing in the photo).

   That is thing of beauty.
8. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

   #8 18th October 2012, 21:02

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stevo67 That is thing of beauty.

   
   
   Thanksyoooo.
9. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

   #9 18th October 2012, 21:28

   I was thinking of the 8v setup. Whats needed? Just the fittings?
10. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #10 18th October 2012, 21:59

    Yes must be the VTR set up as other the 8v dont bolt on to the cast iron block, speaking from exp.
11. danny-vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2010 Chesterfield/Nottingham Posts: 7147 dead vts. twisted 106 gti. '03' vtrrrr

    #11 18th October 2012, 23:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jsdvtr I was thinking of the 8v setup. Whats needed? Just the fittings?

    iv got 8v brackets and belt for sale if you need it
    just no alternator
12. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #12 19th October 2012, 09:11

    Does the vtr setup produce the same amount of power as a vts one?
    
    May look for a early type vts as i put the one off my mk2 engine onto the forged mk1 engine.
13. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #13 31st October 2012, 06:47

    Do i need everything off a mk1 16v setup inc alternator or do i just need the brackets?
14. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #14 31st October 2012, 11:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jsdvtr Do i need everything off a mk1 16v setup inc alternator or do i just need the brackets?

    I`d imagine you`d need the alternator as well mate(may be wrong)
15. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #15 31st October 2012, 11:50

    You just need to brackets all the alternators are the same except the connectors on so the later ones (3 plug ecu) can still use it though.
16. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #16 31st October 2012, 12:01

    iirc, you will also need the early alternator - my late s2 alternator touched the screamer pipe.
17. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #17 31st October 2012, 12:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ross iirc, you will also need the early alternator - my late s2 alternator touched the screamer pipe.

    So that was till touching with the mk2 alternator, mk1 brackets? Just no point me wasting money on another alternator when not needed.
18. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #18 31st October 2012, 12:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jsdvtr So that was till touching with the mk2 alternator, mk1 brackets? Just no point me wasting money on another alternator when not needed.

    yes. We tried the mk1 brackets, with my then current 2002 spec gti alternator. didn't fit, so bought an early alternator and that works (as you can see in the picture above). That's my experience of course, and likely not the same due to the parts-bin style of allocating parts on french cars
19. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

    #19 31st October 2012, 12:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ross yes. We tried the mk1 brackets, with my then current 2002 spec gti alternator. didn't fit, so bought an early alternator and that works (as you can see in the picture above). That's my experience of course, and likely not the same due to the parts-bin style of allocating parts on french cars

    So need the whole lot then... haha. Well danny who made the manifold had a early 106 alternator would of been mk1. Can you fit the alternator bolts wth the engine in?