speeding fine??

1. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

   #1 2nd November 2012, 18:06

   Hi got a letter sayin i was doing 35 in a 30 zone through elvington. I always look out for cameras and never saw this one. I think they were hiding. Is there a law where they must be visible at a certain distance?? And does anyone know how much the fine will be. Will it affect my insurance. Cheers.
2. Dany4494 Established Member Joined: May 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 1806 Civic EP2

   #2 2nd November 2012, 18:11

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by vtrmann Hi got a letter sayin i was doing 35 in a 30 zone through elvington. I always look out for cameras and never saw this one. I think they were hiding. Is there a law where they must be visible at a certain distance?? And does anyone know how much the fine will be. Will it affect my insurance. Cheers.

   Just dispute it worst thing that can happen is you get done which you would of anyway.
3. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

   #3 2nd November 2012, 18:15

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Dany4494 Just dispute it worst thing that can happen is you get done which you would of anyway.

   Was thinking about that. But would i have to go to court or anything??
4. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

   #4 2nd November 2012, 18:26

   Post this in gen chat mate.
5. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

   #5 2nd November 2012, 18:28

   Remembering back now the village had like 3 sets of traffic lights and shit loads of workers and in hi vis and vans, machinery. They were relaying the road half of it coned off. The cunts could of been in a side street behind the workers.
6. user_58023 Established Member Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 1411

   #6 2nd November 2012, 18:28

   might be wrong but don't they HAVE to put a sign up saying there are speed camera's about?
7. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

   #7 2nd November 2012, 18:29

   If they have signs up in the area, they can speed trap where ever.
8. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

   #8 2nd November 2012, 18:31

   Anyone know how much the fine gonna be and if affects insurance cheers
9. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #9 2nd November 2012, 18:40

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by vtrmann Anyone know how much the fine gonna be and if affects insurance cheers

   Often £60.00 fine 3 points on your licence & a hike in insurance.(lasts for 4yrs)
10. rich112 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2009 Kent Posts: 4207 Mango cammed furio vts

    #10 2nd November 2012, 19:49

    Speeding and a pothole.. Not going well for you.

    1 user thanked this post: Pricklep
11. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #11 2nd November 2012, 19:56

    deffo 35mph on the letter? is it a Notice of Intended Prosecution? When is the date on the ticket of the offence, and when did you receive it?
    
    The 35mph thing is interesting. It's below the ACPO guidelines for prosecution.
    The date on the NIP and the date you received it are important also.
    Let me know
12. user_49404 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2010 Mid Wales Posts: 604 03 vtr

    #12 2nd November 2012, 20:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by christoph might be wrong but don't they HAVE to put a sign up saying there are speed camera's about?

    nope
    
    https://www.askthe.police.uk/content/Q642.htm
13. Old_School_Saxo Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2012 Cearphilly (Area) Posts: 218 Saxo Ph2 Furio, Fiesta Mk4 1.7, Astra H 1.8 SRI

    #13 2nd November 2012, 21:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by christoph might be wrong but don't they HAVE to put a sign up saying there are speed camera's about?

    no there doesnt have to be any signs but by law there not aloud to hide speed camera.
14. user_39461 Super Moderator Joined: Nov 2009 Cambridge(ish), UK. Posts: 10581 BMW 5x M50d.

    #14 2nd November 2012, 22:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Old_School_Saxo no there doesnt have to be any signs but by law there not aloud to hide speed camera.

    not true i'm afraid. ACPO guidelines say they should be clearly visible, but breaking those guidelines doesn't invalidate the NIP. It would result (at worst, and only if you reported it to the department for transport) to that force being disallowed from the "netting off" scheme (which allows them to keep part of the fine).
15. Kirky Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2010 medway Posts: 314 saxo mk2 desire

    #15 2nd November 2012, 22:53

    I got done for doing 58 In a 30. Got 4 points and £160 fine
16. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #16 2nd November 2012, 22:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kirkyboii I got done for doing 58 In a 30. Got 4 points and £160 fine

    What did you expect? a pat on your back? Lol.
17. Old_School_Saxo Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2012 Cearphilly (Area) Posts: 218 Saxo Ph2 Furio, Fiesta Mk4 1.7, Astra H 1.8 SRI

    #17 2nd November 2012, 22:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ross not true i'm afraid. ACPO guidelines say they should be clearly visible, but breaking those guidelines doesn't invalidate the NIP. It would result (at worst, and only if you reported it to the department for transport) to that force being disallowed from the "netting off" scheme (which allows them to keep part of the fine).

    strange because i rember it beening debated in the houses of parliment to change the law so all speed cameras could be hiden but thay said that it was sneaky and underhanded and the law will remain that thay have to be clear visible...
    
    which more than once ive gotten away with speeding tickets because the cameras where hiden (last one wasnt lol that was because it was a police car lol)
18. Kirky Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2010 medway Posts: 314 saxo mk2 desire

    #18 2nd November 2012, 23:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle What did you expect? a pat on your back? Lol.

    Blue Peter badge
19. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #19 2nd November 2012, 23:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kirkyboii Blue Peter badge

    We have a joker..
20. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #20 3rd November 2012, 00:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kirkyboii I got done for doing 58 In a 30. Got 4 points and £160 fine

    Something to be proud of that is mate lol
21. craigmc L-plater Joined: Sep 2012 scunthorpe Posts: 35 saxo vtr

    #21 3rd November 2012, 01:29

    if they was in a van, it has to be parked on hard standing. and signs must be visable, i got caught on a road that doesnt have speed camera signs but.... the sly pigs had like a road works sign on the path that displayed a speed camera sign, i could of taken the 3 points and £60 fine but i took it to court and the judge gave me 4 points and £120 fine.
    maybe you could get a seminar, cost like £100 and no points. but you ma have to travel some distance and book a day of work so in all could be equally as cheap to get the points and let insurance go up £150
22. craigmc L-plater Joined: Sep 2012 scunthorpe Posts: 35 saxo vtr

    #22 3rd November 2012, 01:31

    also you must receive your speeding ticket within 14 days of the offence, if not you can disregard it
23. Kirky Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2010 medway Posts: 314 saxo mk2 desire

    #23 3rd November 2012, 06:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cam Something to be proud of that is mate lol

    Indeed. Well no it was rather annoying tbh
24. user_50346 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Houghton-Le-Spring Posts: 366 C2 vts

    #24 4th November 2012, 10:19

    One of my mates got caught doing 35 in a 30 and he got a £60 fine and should have got 3 points but sat for a day and took one of those speed awarness courses and didnt get points.
25. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

    #25 4th November 2012, 10:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by vtrmann Remembering back now the village had like 3 sets of traffic lights and shit loads of workers and in hi vis and vans, machinery. They were relaying the road half of it coned off. The cunts could of been in a side street behind the workers.

    
    Even more of a Valid reason to get a ticket there, do you not value the lives of the workers fixing the roads you use?
26. Chappers200 Infrequent Poster Joined: Aug 2011 Leicester Posts: 194 Punto 55s (Deceased) Citroen Saxo 1.1i expose

    #26 4th November 2012, 17:48

    its very strange because on my speed awareness course (Worst 90 quid spent ever) they said they wouldn't ticket a driver at that speed because they do 30 + 10% speedo error +2 or 3mph at the prosecutors discression. You must live in a very harsh area.
    
    Also, i was caught doing 37mph in a 30 and was told by the guy i was actually unlucky to get done for it.
    
    Is the speed awareness course not an option for you?