Only Running On 3 Cylinders....(Might have cracked this M18 Lambda Sleeve)

  1. Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Shirley Posts: 1858 2000 'X' Reg Citroen Saxo VTR, 2 Tone
    #1
    Hi Guys, Any help appreciated.
    A friend of mine is selling a VTR cheap, I am 100% buying it but it is only running on 3 Cylinders, he reckons it is something to do with the straight through exhaust system fitted.
    The lambda sensor is fitted to the manifold and he says that there is another sensor missing which should be in the exhaust, Now im not the most mechanically minded person but im not 100% sure what he is going on about.
    Now he seems to think that because this sensor is missing that this is making the car run too rich and due to this one of valves has clogged. his words not mine.
    Any help would be appreciated guys i shall be picking the car up next week and would need to get it sorted straight away.
    If it sounds like it could be something else please let me know.
    Thanks all.
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 ringwood Posts: 6305 suzuki swift 1.2 sz3
    #2
    Ummmm, surely if its only running on 3 cylinders it's going to be either sparks, or ht leads/coilpack? I don't know which a Vtr has.
  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #3
    Could have either depending on the year. Most likely spark
  4. Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Shirley Posts: 1858 2000 'X' Reg Citroen Saxo VTR, 2 Tone
    #4
    its an x reg vtr, i believe its a mk2 with mk1 engine.
  5. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #5
    Probably a coil pack engine then I'd say, silvertop 90bhp
  6. Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Shirley Posts: 1858 2000 'X' Reg Citroen Saxo VTR, 2 Tone
    #6
    yeah i think so, reckon thats the best thing to do first then?
    is there anyway to check if the original is working ok or not?
  7. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #7
    Take the coil off, Pull the plugs out, put them back in the coil pack and see if they all spark on cranking. Obviously be careful of any fuel vapours getting out of the combustion chamber
  8. Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Shirley Posts: 1858 2000 'X' Reg Citroen Saxo VTR, 2 Tone
    #8
    ok will do mate, thanks for the help. i will come back on here once i have car if this doesnt work. thanks adam.
  9. Established Member Joined: May 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 1806 Civic EP2
    #9
    If you think it might be leads best way to check is just swap 2 leads around one off the missfiring cylinder and one off a good one if the missfire swaps cylinders its a lead, check your fuel and spark if its neither of them could be compression issues wet and dry test basic and easy but then if your still stuck probably garage is your best bet.

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  10. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #10
    coil over plugs not leads
  11. Established Member Joined: May 2012 West Yorkshire Posts: 1806 Civic EP2
    #11
    Haha didn't read where it said mk1 engine.

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  12. Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2012 telford Posts: 312 pug 106 pug 206 saxo vts cupra r saab 93 sp
    #12
    id say coil, are you sure is running on 3 not 2 as usilly when the overhead coil brakes u lose 2 sparks not 1
  13. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #13
    Anything after 98 iirc

    Will have coil over plugs, its a "mk1 engine" but not an early mk1 engine.. Those are black top with pack and leads
  14. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH
    #14
    Its a cross over engine then if its a mk2 body mk1 engine on a x reg.

    As said will be spark plug or coil pack, Even a blocked injector.
  15. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.
    #15
    damaged wiring is likely.
  16. Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Shirley Posts: 1858 2000 'X' Reg Citroen Saxo VTR, 2 Tone
    #16
    thanks for the help all, will have the car a week on friday and will report back
  17. Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Shirley Posts: 1858 2000 'X' Reg Citroen Saxo VTR, 2 Tone
    #17
    I have been looking into this some more today and spoken to the owner. Its not running on 3 cylinders but is just running lumpy.
    an M18 Lambda Sleeve is needed - I have only found this at Kam racing but is £15, seems a little high considering what it actually is, anyone know anywhere better i could get this from?
  18. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2009 ringwood Posts: 6305 suzuki swift 1.2 sz3
    #18
    GMC Motorsport?
  19. Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Shirley Posts: 1858 2000 'X' Reg Citroen Saxo VTR, 2 Tone
    #19
    there £18 on GMC, i have found this on ebay, would it be the correct part?
    i wanna make sure before i order
    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230685186363
  20. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B
    #20
    just bag it up, tape it up, and cbale tie it up out the way in the bay
  21. Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Shirley Posts: 1858 2000 'X' Reg Citroen Saxo VTR, 2 Tone
    #21
    will do mate, thanks for the advice