its toyo sports one. only reason iv had it was because of the price. i ended up with a toyosports 4-2-1 for my civic but never ended up fitting. i got it at a steal of a price of a forum member. when i decided to have the saxo i checked to see if they did a 4-2-1 for the vts and they did so we exchanged a few emails and i went down friday and swapped them. and because the rrp for the civic mani was higher i got the sax mani 2 rolls of heat wrap a new induction pipe and a bunch of tie wraps for the heat wrap. even tho i only paid £50 for the civic mani

done it mike brewer style bita wheeler dealer action lol like i say its the two on the left hand side 2nd and 3rd in. main reason i cant get my oversized hands in between the other pipes and now they are wrapped makes it even harder. going to get underneath it and remove oil filter (servicing it anyway) and do it 1/100000th of a turn at a time with open ended 13mm spanner.