linkages hitting manifold to cat flange

1. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #1 17th December 2012, 20:45

   As title really, but only when using reverse. Not a major problem on a track car but from the fact it clangs and I have to hold it in reverse if I want to back up pisses me off
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Any advice?
2. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #2 17th December 2012, 21:04

   Do you have any play in your engine mounts,causing the engine to catch on the CAT mate?
3. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #3 17th December 2012, 21:08

   lower mount on wrong?
4. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #4 17th December 2012, 21:25

   Or I suppose you could file down the flange on the CAT so it doesn`t catch?
5. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #5 17th December 2012, 21:58

   Nah lower mount is on the right way round, all the other mounts are OEM spec but brand new with the powerflex on the lower. I guess filing it down is the only method then
6. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

   #6 17th December 2012, 21:58

   should not be anywhere near the linkages.
7. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

   #7 17th December 2012, 22:20

   is the downpipe "bent"? like more up angle then it should be??
8. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #8 17th December 2012, 22:56

   No seems alright to be honest, runs through the shallow bit of the sump just fine and doest look wonky or touch there. It doesnt have the securing bolt half way down for the gearbox, simply because the manifold doesnt have the bracket for it.
9. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #9 17th December 2012, 23:02

   I have this problem after fitting the poly bush type exhaust hangers / rubbers. Pulls the exhaust up more than usual, so get some rattling at certain rpm.
   
   So i'd look at adjusting the exhaust so it sits lower down
10. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #10 17th December 2012, 23:13

    I dont think I can adjust it anymore than it is, as the angle and height of the two flanges is dictated by the manifold and how its downpipe exits
    
    This guy had the exact issue I do:
    
    
11. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #11 17th December 2012, 23:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 No seems alright to be honest, runs through the shallow bit of the sump just fine and doest look wonky or touch there. It doesnt have the securing bolt half way down for the gearbox, simply because the manifold doesnt have the bracket for it.

    Mine doesnt either. I'll grab a pic tommorow to show the clearance mine has.
    
    Ive got the powerflex lower mount and it had no affect on the downpipe height whatsoever. @ saxova
12. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #12 17th December 2012, 23:37

    I know the mounts on right as I had it on upside down before when I did the rallye box a while back, and the exhaust was trying to exit through the golf ball linkage and above.
    It literally just clinks the flange now and gets annoying
13. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

    #13 18th December 2012, 00:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Prickle Mine doesnt either. I'll grab a pic tommorow to show the clearance mine has. Ive got the powerflex lower mount and it had no affect on the downpipe height whatsoever. @ saxova

    I mean the nylon type exhaust hangers instead of rubber, so they are slightly tighter - nothing to do with engine mount, but that's powerflex too
14. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #14 18th December 2012, 00:03

    Ill have a look at this tomorrow, its always bugged me and now I've got some more time off I can sort it
15. AL3X_ Established Member Joined: May 2010 Posts: 1434

    #15 18th December 2012, 00:03

    mine did this with a sportex mani and decat, filed down bits of the linkage and flange, sportex was slightly shit with fitment anyway
16. Pricklep Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 31279 Citroen Saxo VTS, S60 D5

    #16 18th December 2012, 00:04

    I have those aswell... still not like that..
17. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #17 18th December 2012, 21:16

    ground the cat flange down today and the shift is now perfect and slick, no clanging or crunching!
18. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

    #18 18th December 2012, 21:27

    i swapped an engine in a VTR, with another VTR lump. when i put it back in it did this. fine when it came out, clanked in reverse when i put t back in.
    took the exhaust off and put it back on it didnt do it :/ no idea why it did it tbh.
    think the flange was twisted round
19. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #19 18th December 2012, 21:37

    the flange on the cat had a high bit that the linkage hit against. Now its slides into a little recess I made. Its nice to feel reverse properly engage, as with the deep gravel on my driveway it kept popping out unless you held it with a bit of force.
20. danpep91 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 413

    #20 27th March 2013, 22:23

    Did that sort the vibration also mate?
21. vtrmann Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2009 E yorkshire Posts: 947 53 black vtr

    #21 28th March 2013, 10:46

    I had the same problem on vtr when had a new front pipe fitted. I could not get it in reverse at all. Took it back to garage and i think he just bent the bracket back. You could still feel it vibrating tho in reverse. Strange one this as a brand new part should fit straight on. I checked engine mounts and was fine.
22. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #22 28th March 2013, 11:23

    Pretty much sorted the vibration out
23. danpep91 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 413

    #23 28th March 2013, 13:14

    Did u have any problems with the decat pipe touching the arb
24. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #24 28th March 2013, 13:38

    Nope, sounds like your exhaust hangers or other mounts are buggered
25. danpep91 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 413

    #25 28th March 2013, 13:51

    Never had problems before with it
26. danpep91 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 413

    #26 28th March 2013, 13:51

    I'm ganna remove it all and refit see if I need to make a new bit of exhaust or summing
27. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #27 28th March 2013, 13:53

    you surely no ones had the gearbox mount off?
28. danpep91 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 413

    #28 28th March 2013, 13:54

    Nah defo not
29. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #29 28th March 2013, 13:56

    must be the manifold, try bending it down a bit
30. danpep91 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 413

    #30 28th March 2013, 14:14

    Yh proper annoying thanks for ur advice mate
31. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #31 28th March 2013, 14:28

    No problem hope it sorts the issue