green VTR injectors??

1. user_57752 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 476 Cammed MK1 VTR

   #1 14th January 2013, 16:00

   after a thread i amde the other day i have now found out the green injectors in my vtr which i thought were from a 1.1 are vtr injectors with the part number 0280155794, i believe that is correct? has anyone else ever came across these injectors in green? all the ones i seen are blue
2. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #2 14th January 2013, 18:36

   They maybe aftermarket injectors fitted such as Lucas mate.

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3. user_57752 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 476 Cammed MK1 VTR

   #3 14th January 2013, 23:29

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stevo67 They maybe aftermarket injectors fitted such as Lucas mate.

   ok cheers mate, would effect performance at all then no?
4. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #4 15th January 2013, 00:52

   did you try the blue injectors?
5. user_57752 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 476 Cammed MK1 VTR

   #5 15th January 2013, 01:40

   no i havn't yet mate, im trying them on the weekend when my mates isn't busy
6. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #6 15th January 2013, 10:41

   what makes you think the green ones aren't right? is the car flat spotting etc?
7. user_57752 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 476 Cammed MK1 VTR

   #7 15th January 2013, 16:51

   not a lot of top end power but there is loads of bottom end torque, so i thought maybe it would be because of 1.1 injectors, which i dont think they are now because the part numbers. i thought the lump was no good a few months back and was going to replace it, then it sorted itself out but now its no good again, but my mate pointed out the other day the exhaust gasses smell like its running rich, i never noticed until he pointed it out but i think it is.
8. chris15 Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 20 Ford Focus and Citroen Saxo

   #8 15th January 2013, 16:57

   try another air filter
9. user_57752 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 476 Cammed MK1 VTR

   #9 15th January 2013, 17:05

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by chris15 try another air filter

   it is near enough brand new mate
   serviced it a few thousand miles ago, checked air filter and its still near enough like new
10. chris15 Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 20 Ford Focus and Citroen Saxo

    #10 15th January 2013, 17:15

    what condition is the exhaust in? maybe part of the exhaust has broken up internally and is causing some form of a blockage. so at top end it cant release the gases quick enough and its all backing up.
11. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #11 15th January 2013, 17:55

    Have you had it on a reader too see it there are any other faults with sensors etc? I mean standard VTRs are good at the top end anyway
12. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #12 15th January 2013, 17:55

    Or rather aren't good**
13. user_57752 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 476 Cammed MK1 VTR

    #13 15th January 2013, 21:12

    no i havnt, i did have a run up the bypass behind a 106 with a vtr engine before and it left me with no problem, both have 1.1 boxes, am just considering getting another engine with less miles, doing the gasket and valve seals, water pump etc then putting that in, and chis, the exhaust is in good condition
14. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #14 15th January 2013, 22:26

    what ecu is he running? if its something rallye or xsi based that might make a difference.
    I'd compression test your engine and see how it fairs with that
15. user_57752 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 476 Cammed MK1 VTR

    #15 16th January 2013, 04:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 what ecu is he running? if its something rallye or xsi based that might make a difference. I'd compression test your engine and see how it fairs with that

    he's using his quicksliver ecu on it, i was thinking rather than do a compression test just put a lump in anyway for peace of mind, mine does smoke a little anyway..well...when i say a little...a fair bit of white smoke :/ not using coolant though
16. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #16 16th January 2013, 09:38

    hmm if its on a quicky ECU it doesnt have a raised rev limit over a VTR, so something must be up. Sounds like yours could be over fuelling? mine used to do that with rallye injectors and a 3.5 bar FPR
17. user_57752 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 476 Cammed MK1 VTR

    #17 16th January 2013, 21:34

    yeah i was thinking the exhaust gas smells a bit rich as if its over fueling, its all standard apart from a sportex backbox though, and i know the lambda is ok, surly if it was running rich it wouldnt slow it down so much?
    
    think its worth putting a new lump in? theres one fairly local to me for 50 quid on 80k
18. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #18 16th January 2013, 23:36

    I'd pull the head off yours a give it a good going over, an 80k engine might end up being as dodgy
19. user_57752 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 476 Cammed MK1 VTR

    #19 16th January 2013, 23:50

    might be worth doing, but the head was off not so long ago when i serviced it as i done the head gasket, and i didnt notice anything then, thing is, not sure if its worth spending much money on an engine with 113k roughly on it, thats assuming its the original engine of course.
20. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #20 16th January 2013, 23:54

    Put a rallye s2 unit in it! haha
21. user_57752 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 476 Cammed MK1 VTR

    #21 17th January 2013, 22:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 Put a rallye s2 unit in it! haha

    hahah be 3 plug wont it? and probably out my price range
22. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #22 17th January 2013, 22:35

    No not 3 plug on those, its more similar to the black top VTR engine if anything. Will fit in a single plug silvertop car and work though
    Not really too pricey, probably 50 quid more than a VTR engine maybe
23. user_57752 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 476 Cammed MK1 VTR

    #23 18th January 2013, 03:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 No not 3 plug on those, its more similar to the black top VTR engine if anything. Will fit in a single plug silvertop car and work though Not really too pricey, probably 50 quid more than a VTR engine maybe

    might aswell get a black top vtr engine then? or is it a bit quicker or stronger or?
24. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

    #24 18th January 2013, 08:56

    the s2 rallye engine has a better head and cam
25. user_57752 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2012 Oswestry, Shropshire Posts: 476 Cammed MK1 VTR

    #25 18th January 2013, 22:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gandi699 the s2 rallye engine has a better head and cam

    will probably end up getting a vtr engine soon tbh, waiting on a payment after selling private plate so that'll be my engine fund lol, my mate had a listen earlier and said he thought he could hear some piston slap or something?