HELP! quick response if possible

  1. Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 15
    #1
    hello guys/girls

    i havve a 1.4 furio and crank pulley was wobbling got it changed now the car wont start any ideas why this is and anyone have a installation guide because i got it fitted by my grandad and not quite sure if he done it right.
  2. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 East Devon Posts: 7472 Clio RS200 Cup, Twingo RS133, Triumph Street Tripl
    #2
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jamielunn91 View Post
    hello guys/girls

    i havve a 1.4 furio and crank pulley was wobbling got it changed now the car wont start any ideas why this is and anyone have a installation guide because i got it fitted by my grandad and not quite sure if he done it right.
    crank pulley? that won't have anything to do with it starting really

    have you checked the fuel cut off switch. might of activated if you let the car down to aggressively. unlikely tho
  3. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #3
    Sounds like an unrelated fault imo.
  4. Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 15
    #4
    what do you suggest i do guys? it sounds like it wants to start but cant? l
  5. Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper
    #5
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jamielunn91 View Post
    what do you suggest i do guys? it sounds like it wants to start but cant? l
    Is it turning over? If so, immobiliser??
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #6
    to make it easier for ya. if there's no fuel AND no spark then your immobiliser has kicked in y0.

    Seem odd though, that pulley isn't near anything...
  7. Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 15
    #7
    its trying to start up but wont it turns over and its not immobiliser could changing the pulley affect timing or anything like that? it started up first when it was first changed but had lack of power woulnt go over 20 mph and wouldnt rev and now its gone completely im thinking of just scrapping it
  8. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #8
    Removing the bottom pulley exposes the cambelt but unless you've moved the it on the pulleys, or actually taken it off, then I doubt thats the problem. Sounds like you have an electrical fault. Are you getting fuel and spark?
  9. Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 15
    #9
    yes getting fuel and spark had it serviced just before aswell and now the plugs are black?
  10. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #10
    If its got fuel and spark then it should start providing its got compression. Tried some easy start? Always worth a punt as an easy test.
    Check the timing is correctly set too
  11. L-plater Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 37 1.4 Posi Blue Furio - 51 plate
    #11
    what did it sound like when you tried to rev it beyond 20mph when it first got started?
  12. Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Mull of Kintyre Posts: 1496 Saxo VTR. Pug 407. trabant...seriously VW T25
    #12
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SwedisH777 View Post
    what did it sound like when you tried to rev it beyond 20mph when it first got started?
    If it sounded like
    this then you are in trouble
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  13. Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 15
    #13
    just wouldnt go like it was restricted and when i went up gears in wouldnt go any faster? im truely stuck none of this happened untill that pulley got taken off and now problems?
  14. L-plater Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 37 1.4 Posi Blue Furio - 51 plate
    #14
    not loud and clunky?
  15. Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 15
    #15
    no :/ ever since the pulley got changed the car doesnt start?
  16. L-plater Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 37 1.4 Posi Blue Furio - 51 plate
    #16
    you said it started first time after the change and ran awfully though?
    If you've messed up the timing it could have bent the pistons or something and screwed up your engine but if its not being loud then thats probably not the case, the fact it was restricted and now won't start sounds like an immobiliser problem
  17. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #17
    Does it sound like its making compression when it turns?
  18. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.
    #18
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jamielunn91 View Post
    hello guys/girls

    i havve a 1.4 furio and crank pulley was wobbling got it changed now the car wont start any ideas why this is and anyone have a installation guide because i got it fitted by my grandad and not quite sure if he done it right.
    When you changed the pulley did you in any way tighten/move the centre nut on the pulley?If so you may have put the timing out.
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  19. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #19
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    Originally Posted by stevo67 View Post
    When you changed the pulley did you in any way tighten/move the centre nut on the pulley?If so you may have put the timing out.
    I'm sure the timing pulley on the crank is keyed so it can only go on one way. So even if that bolt was removed the timing should not move.

    Surely op only removed the aux belt?
  20. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2011 Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 7779 Phase 2 VTS , E61 M5
    #20
    mine ended up being a fault code, cleared it and it started
  21. Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 15
    #21
    have fault code reader on it today came up air temp sensor and vehicle speed sensor, cleared it nothing happened, getting fuel through getting spark but still wont start? just sounds like it wants to start, but wont i have no idea at all what to do with it
  22. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #22
    how do you know you are getting a spark? have you had the coilpack out and tested the plugs earthed against something?
    had the injectors out of the head still in the rail to see if they fire off?
  23. Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 15
    #23
    yes mate
  24. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182
    #24
    Ok next step is checking the timing and compression
  25. Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 15
    #25
    code reader says something about manifold compression sensor?
  26. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2012 Perth Posts: 3665 Peugeot 106 1.1 Turbo Peugeot 106 1.5D Turbo Peuge
    #26
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jamielunn91 View Post
    code reader says something about manifold compression sensor?
    the MAP sensor probably.

    What was the actual code you got?
  27. Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 15
    #27
    had that changed and still not that i have no idea what to do now anyone interested in buying it 190 pounds?
  28. Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653
    #28
    How did your grandad lock the engine when he unscrewed the crank bolt?

    Where abouts are you?
  29. Newbie Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 15
    #29
    nottingham & i have no idea this all has happened since the crank pulley got changed but its wobbling more than ever now? what could be causing it to wobble and not start? could he installed it wrong?
  30. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi
    #30
    hey jamie best pm prickle as he had pretty much same problem few weeks back
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  31. Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2012 Co.Wexford Ireland Posts: 127 Citroen saxo vtr Citroen Mechanic
    #31
    Re time the engine up ya jumped it tooth or two by the sounds of things ya ment I lock the fly wheel off when unbolting the pullys etc witch I bet you didn't do