Vts sound from cold start (video link)

1. wobby82 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 839 icelancic grey 2oo2 vtr icelandic grey vts 2oo2

   #1 30th January 2013, 19:34

   I've swapped alternater and belt, swapped tensioner and still does it, while I had alternater belt off I started car and the noise was gone! Really annoying me now ! Any ideas as funds are limited so want to get it right as already changed the above and it dident solve it thanks
   
2. wobby82 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 839 icelancic grey 2oo2 vtr icelandic grey vts 2oo2

   #2 30th January 2013, 19:38

   Maybe krank pully? Or water pump? It can be revved out, or if I start car and just rev it slightly it doesent do it
3. JoshSmith Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Telford Posts: 181 Icelandic Furio

   #3 30th January 2013, 22:45

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by wobby82 I've swapped alternater and belt, swapped tensioner and still does it, while I had alternater belt off I started car and the noise was gone! Really annoying me now ! Any ideas as funds are limited so want to get it right as already changed the above and it dident solve it thanks Saxo Vts cold start sound - YouTube

   I had this problem on my 1.1, the alternator belt was too slack, literally tightened it up a few notches and the noise was gone.
4. wobby82 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 839 icelancic grey 2oo2 vtr icelandic grey vts 2oo2

   #4 31st January 2013, 05:08

   Tried all that
5. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

   #5 31st January 2013, 16:24

   Alternator bearings.
6. wobby82 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 839 icelancic grey 2oo2 vtr icelandic grey vts 2oo2

   #6 2nd February 2013, 12:15

   It can't be as I used a nut gun to spin the alternater up before I put it on and it sounded fine
7. VTRelite Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Gloucester Posts: 3000 Citroen Saxo VTR Renault 5

   #7 2nd February 2013, 13:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by wobby82 It can't be as I used a nut gun to spin the alternater up before I put it on and it sounded fine

   Yeah but that was free wheeling and not under any load.
8. tillygti6 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 897 106 ph1 rallye 106 gti 106 hybrid thing GTI~6

   #8 2nd February 2013, 13:15

   Most likely the crank pulley deteriorating if you have tried a spare alt.
   Unless the belts fouling on the timing cover at the bottom.
   
   Didnt watch vid as on the mobile....
9. tillygti6 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 897 106 ph1 rallye 106 gti 106 hybrid thing GTI~6

   #9 2nd February 2013, 13:18

   Just watched the vid, its sounding more like bearing related noise. Could be wsterpump but itd still do the noise with no alt belt on.
10. user_61020 Established Member Joined: Aug 2012 Posts: 2009 Saxò VTS 16v

    #10 2nd February 2013, 14:28

    Does the noise get louder if you turn on the A/C? if you got one.
11. wobby82 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 839 icelancic grey 2oo2 vtr icelandic grey vts 2oo2

    #11 2nd February 2013, 18:53

    It doesent get louder but it can activate the noise
12. wobby82 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 839 icelancic grey 2oo2 vtr icelandic grey vts 2oo2

    #12 2nd February 2013, 19:10

    Sorry if I put lights on that can make it do it also but only during first start up in morning
13. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #13 2nd February 2013, 20:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wobby82 Sorry if I put lights on that can make it do it also but only during first start up in morning

    Then its the alternator bearings mate,which over time will get louder & more constant.
14. wobby82 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 839 icelancic grey 2oo2 vtr icelandic grey vts 2oo2

    #14 2nd February 2013, 21:24

    Would it not do it all the time though
15. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #15 2nd February 2013, 21:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wobby82 Would it not do it all the time though

    Not to begin with,but it gets worse i`ve had it happen mate.Check your pulley isn`t worn as well which would make the belt slip.
16. wobby82 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 839 icelancic grey 2oo2 vtr icelandic grey vts 2oo2

    #16 3rd February 2013, 06:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevo67 Not to begin with,but it gets worse i`ve had it happen mate.Check your pulley isn`t worn as well which would make the belt slip.

    The krank pully? If so how do I check it? Also when I give it the beans the batterie light faintly flickers not a lot though
17. welshpug Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2010 South Wales Posts: 3078 ZX 16v, 205 GTI, 309 Goodwood, 405 MI16.

    #17 3rd February 2013, 10:39

    dead alternator for sure then.
18. user_20080 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2007 smurfland. Posts: 17346 Ex saxo owner.

    #18 3rd February 2013, 14:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wobby82 The krank pully? If so how do I check it? Also when I give it the beans the batterie light faintly flickers not a lot though

    Well that tells me you`re alternator is goosed mate,forget about the pulley.
19. user_31412 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 ★ West / North Yorkshire ★ Posts: 1653

    #19 5th February 2013, 23:39

    Alternator bearings
20. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

    #20 6th February 2013, 13:31

    My mates golf does this and i'm fairly sure he said it's the alternator bearings
21. wobby82 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 839 icelancic grey 2oo2 vtr icelandic grey vts 2oo2

    #21 6th February 2013, 17:14

    Ask him mate
22. wobby82 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 839 icelancic grey 2oo2 vtr icelandic grey vts 2oo2

    #22 23rd February 2013, 16:03

    Going to try a spare crank pully, hope this works
23. Skitts123 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2012 Norwich Posts: 453 Saxo Mk2 Vtr (sold) 106 gti

    #23 24th February 2013, 17:15

    Asked him pal and it was the bearings
24. wobby82 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2011 Posts: 839 icelancic grey 2oo2 vtr icelandic grey vts 2oo2

    #24 2nd March 2013, 21:38

    Just a update for anyone who may have similar problem, was the crankshaft pully, the rubber that joins the inner and outer ring was causing the outer ring to slip on cold start up and also under electrical load ie turning steering , winding windows up, lights, hope this helps
    
    
    The day nice na true

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