1.1 box in a VTR advice.

1. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

   #1 28th February 2013, 20:06

   From someone whos ran one in a VTR how was it?
   
   Ive read the ratios and understand they are shorter, but the VTR isnt a peaky engine really, 5K+ its breathless so not sure if the shorter ratios will equate to better acceleration.
   
   I would be interested to know how fuel economy was effected and if performance was notably improved.
   cheers.
2. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

   #2 28th February 2013, 20:14

   Had one on mine for just over a month and hated it. Yeah it seems to pull quicker but on the motorway you are sitting close to 4k rpm at 70 drinking the fuel.
3. burgin2011 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2011 alfreton Posts: 533 saxoo vtr mk1, 104bhp

   #3 28th February 2013, 20:28

   4k at 70mph is high that says enough tbh i find vtr's use a hell of alot of fuel as it is and with the 1.1 box you will probably ragging it about, then blow your box some people will enjoy it some wont
4. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

   #4 28th February 2013, 20:31

   I had one on my old vtr, made a fair bit of difference!
5. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #5 28th February 2013, 20:34

   s1 rallye box man up i probably will be now
6. Ali123 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2011 huddersfield Posts: 2635 ph3'd c2 gt

   #6 28th February 2013, 20:36

   I really want an s1 box
7. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

   #7 28th February 2013, 20:37

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by burgin2011 I find vtr's use a hell of a lot of fuel as it is

   You obviously haven't driven a well built one like mine. Mine gets amazing mpg when booting it and when driving sensible.
8. burgin2011 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2011 alfreton Posts: 533 saxoo vtr mk1, 104bhp

   #8 28th February 2013, 20:44

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Bedford126 You obviously haven't driven a well built one like mine. Mine gets amazing mpg when booting it and when driving sensible.

   
   sorry to the op for spamming , how many miles do you get to a tenner? my engines gone and burning about 2l of oil a week i can get 35 miles to a tenner driving steady its a joke!!!
9. Gandi699 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 9100 Amazon green VTR 16v, Inferno RS clio 182

   #9 28th February 2013, 20:46

   2l a week? That needs to be pulled apart and rebuilt or replaced
10. Bedford126 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2010 Morley, Leeds Posts: 8469 Civic ep3 type r powered by TDI NORTH

    #10 28th February 2013, 20:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by burgin2011 sorry to the op for spamming , how many miles do you get to a tenner? my engines gone and burning about 2l of oil a week i can get 35 miles to a tenner driving steady its a joke!!!

    Not sure on how many litres a tenner is mate but from 10 litres I can do 94 miles with a little left over. (distance to my old work and home)
11. burgin2011 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2011 alfreton Posts: 533 saxoo vtr mk1, 104bhp

    #11 28th February 2013, 20:55

    always oil in each spark plug hole aswell misfires like its going out of fassion pulls when it feels like it stops randomly all time and stinks of oik when you put your foot down
12. Cam Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2010 Kent Posts: 8439 Gen 7 Celica 190.

    #12 28th February 2013, 20:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by burgin2011 sorry to the op for spamming , how many miles do you get to a tenner? my engines gone and burning about 2l of oil a week i can get 35 miles to a tenner driving steady its a joke!!!

    If thats true then you got a srs problem.
13. burgin2011 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2011 alfreton Posts: 533 saxoo vtr mk1, 104bhp

    #13 28th February 2013, 20:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bedford126 Not sure on how many litres a tenner is mate but from 10 litres I can do 94 miles with a little left over. (distance to my old work and home)

    around £15 but that is awsome im getting around 60max! selling your car ;-)
14. burgin2011 Frequent Poster Joined: Sep 2011 alfreton Posts: 533 saxoo vtr mk1, 104bhp

    #14 28th February 2013, 20:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cam If thats true then you got a srs problem.

    no seriously dude i ant lying its problem after problem i can use a big 5l bottle of oil in around a month
15. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #15 28th February 2013, 21:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ali123 I really want an s1 box

    buy mine
16. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

    #16 1st March 2013, 09:08

    On my last 3 tanks ive had 44/45/44mpg out of mine.
    
    I will have to buy a box and do a 1/4 and 0-60 RWYB day down at York, get a few runs with the standard box and then swap to a 1.1 box and get some runs in and post results.
    Might be a day out for this summer.
    thanks guys for the input.
17. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #17 2nd March 2013, 21:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by burgin2011 always oil in each spark plug hole aswell misfires like its going out of fassion pulls when it feels like it stops randomly all time and stinks of oik when you put your foot down

    Your engine is far past it, why are you still driving it!
    
    
    Had a 1.1 box on my vtr, was much more fun but as said with an exhaust it annoys the shit out of me at mororway speeds, also starts to lose steam around 110mph, but just feels like it pulls much better!
18. user_43898 Established Member Joined: May 2010 leicester Posts: 1446 Clio 182 Inferno

    #18 2nd March 2013, 22:00

    I had a 1.1 box in my VTR and it definatly pulled better with the shorter ratios, but unfortunatly the gearbox didnt last the year, i can only assume that the 1.1 gearbox is weaker and obviously want built to handle the extra torque/power in the vtr, since that box i have had a vts gearbox and that seems just as good but has longer ratios , and it did a 16.0 1/4 Mile but the 1.1 did a 16.7
19. m4tt274 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2011 Doncaster Posts: 2627 Fabia VRS, mk1 fiesta + some others

    #19 2nd March 2013, 23:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnakeVTR it did a 16.0 1/4 Mile but the 1.1 did a 16.7

    more like the info i want!
    was that an average of a few runs or best?
20. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #20 2nd March 2013, 23:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnakeVTR I had a 1.1 box in my VTR and it definatly pulled better with the shorter ratios, but unfortunatly the gearbox didnt last the year, i can only assume that the 1.1 gearbox is weaker and obviously want built to handle the extra torque/power in the vtr, since that box i have had a vts gearbox and that seems just as good but has longer ratios , and it did a 16.0 1/4 Mile but the 1.1 did a 16.7

    Vts has slightly longer final drive doesnt it??
    
    
    As for longevity, mine lasted 50k miles over 3 years

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21. mof Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Doncaster Posts: 174 Citroën Saxo Vtr

    #21 3rd March 2013, 08:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by burgin2011 4k at 70mph is high that says enough tbh i find vtr's use a hell of alot of fuel as it is and with the 1.1 box you will probably ragging it about, then blow your box some people will enjoy it some wont

    Im getting like 42mpg..
22. mof Infrequent Poster Joined: Nov 2011 Doncaster Posts: 174 Citroën Saxo Vtr

    #22 3rd March 2013, 09:14

    just worked it out actually did average 47mpg in my last tank!